peter green mods
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Re: peter green mods
http://www.toneninja.net/green.htm
I've got several comments on this page of my site concerning greenie.
Words from Andy Ellis, Guitar Magazine editor, words from Seymour Duncan and some good stuff from a Les Paul forum member, including some clips supplied by Andy Ellis.
Good stuff.
http://www.toneninja.net/green.htm
I've got several comments on this page of my site concerning greenie.
Words from Andy Ellis, Guitar Magazine editor, words from Seymour Duncan and some good stuff from a Les Paul forum member, including some clips supplied by Andy Ellis.
Good stuff.
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Falstaff
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Re: peter green mods
It's just flipping the magnet on one of the pickups (roll it like a log)...then in the middle position you'll get that sound when both volumes are the same. It gets closer to the standard sound if the volume levels are mismatched. Here are a couple cool clips done by a guy from the LPF: http://www.smalltimeleroy.com/voodoo-paf.html
It's just flipping the magnet on one of the pickups (roll it like a log)...then in the middle position you'll get that sound when both volumes are the same. It gets closer to the standard sound if the volume levels are mismatched. Here are a couple cool clips done by a guy from the LPF: http://www.smalltimeleroy.com/voodoo-paf.html
Curly
Moe's Bluesman
Re: peter green mods
I love Peter Green's playing, and always have!
BTW, I think Hamer's are wired Peter Green style - that is, they don't do the magnet flip, but I read a comment somewhere on their site where Jol Dantzig said their guitars were wired Greeny style right from the start....
here:
Jol D: The interesting thing about that pickup is that we eventually called it the "Slammer" pickup. Paul and I were early Fleetwood Mac fanatics, you know...Peter Green, Danny Kirwin that whole sound. One thing about Peter Green's guitar was that "out-of-phase" tonality.
Vintage Guitar: We covered that subject quite heavily in one of my columns not too long ago.
JD: To get that "sound", we reversed the wiring on the neck pickup internally, so when you soldered the pickups in the normal way, you would get that sound automatically. That was the whole idea. The cool thing about it was that the two pickups sounded different, they both had their own electronic "signature". By using the two volume controls at different places, while the pickup selector was in the middle position, you would get all these tonal combinations that you wouldn't get using two of the "same" humbucking pickups "in-phase". You could acheive that real shimmering Rickenbacker sound, that Peter Green sound, and you could get the normal Gibson sounds like on an ES-345 just by changing the volume controls.
there are a few more comments here:
http://www.hamerfanclub.com/jolspeaks.html
One thing cool about Hamers that I think we owners seldom mention here is how interactive the controls are.
I love Peter Green's playing, and always have!
BTW, I think Hamer's are wired Peter Green style - that is, they don't do the magnet flip, but I read a comment somewhere on their site where Jol Dantzig said their guitars were wired Greeny style right from the start....
here:
Jol D: The interesting thing about that pickup is that we eventually called it the "Slammer" pickup. Paul and I were early Fleetwood Mac fanatics, you know...Peter Green, Danny Kirwin that whole sound. One thing about Peter Green's guitar was that "out-of-phase" tonality.
Vintage Guitar: We covered that subject quite heavily in one of my columns not too long ago.
JD: To get that "sound", we reversed the wiring on the neck pickup internally, so when you soldered the pickups in the normal way, you would get that sound automatically. That was the whole idea. The cool thing about it was that the two pickups sounded different, they both had their own electronic "signature". By using the two volume controls at different places, while the pickup selector was in the middle position, you would get all these tonal combinations that you wouldn't get using two of the "same" humbucking pickups "in-phase". You could acheive that real shimmering Rickenbacker sound, that Peter Green sound, and you could get the normal Gibson sounds like on an ES-345 just by changing the volume controls.
there are a few more comments here:
http://www.hamerfanclub.com/jolspeaks.html
One thing cool about Hamers that I think we owners seldom mention here is how interactive the controls are.
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Cory_Dylan
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Re: peter green mods
This is kind of off topic, but if you just use the green wire as your hot instead of the black wire will this be like using the other side of the magnet? probably a stupid question...
also (off topic again), i get a really cool tone with my neck pickup in series with the bridge with both pickups out of phase. kinda sounds like a wah in it's sweet spot
This is kind of off topic, but if you just use the green wire as your hot instead of the black wire will this be like using the other side of the magnet? probably a stupid question...
also (off topic again), i get a really cool tone with my neck pickup in series with the bridge with both pickups out of phase. kinda sounds like a wah in it's sweet spot
Number One
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Re: peter green mods
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Lewguitar
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Re: peter green mods
Really all they did was reverse the alnico magnet for one humbucking pickup so the two pickups would be out of phase when combined. The reason I say that is because that's what I had to do to one pickup to UNDO it and put the pickups in phase.
The Green Mod Sounds really thin and nasally but you can control that effect by adjusting the volume of one pickup higher than the other...etc.
I've never liked that effect...thin mosquito tone doesn't do it for me.
As far as doing it to a Les Paul, it's easy. Just remove one pickup, remove the magnet and spin it around 180 degrees or turn it over as if you were rolling over in bed, and reinstall the magnet.
Peter Green also had his neck pickup turned around in the rout so that the pole pieces were airmed towards the bridge...not towards the neck.
Interestingly (to me at least!) is that Wes Montgomery tried the same thing on his L5! There's a few old photos of Wes with his L5 like that.
Lew
My '78, '79 and '92 Hamer Sunbursts were all wired Peter Green style...by '95 Hamer stopped doing that.Curly said:
Really all they did was reverse the alnico magnet for one humbucking pickup so the two pickups would be out of phase when combined. The reason I say that is because that's what I had to do to one pickup to UNDO it and put the pickups in phase.
The Green Mod Sounds really thin and nasally but you can control that effect by adjusting the volume of one pickup higher than the other...etc.
I've never liked that effect...thin mosquito tone doesn't do it for me.
As far as doing it to a Les Paul, it's easy. Just remove one pickup, remove the magnet and spin it around 180 degrees or turn it over as if you were rolling over in bed, and reinstall the magnet.
Peter Green also had his neck pickup turned around in the rout so that the pole pieces were airmed towards the bridge...not towards the neck.
Interestingly (to me at least!) is that Wes Montgomery tried the same thing on his L5! There's a few old photos of Wes with his L5 like that.
Lew
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texasguitarslinger
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Re: peter green mods
WOO HOO! :dance:
WOO HOO! :dance:
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Lewguitar
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Re: peter green mods
Peter goes back and forth on that one! I've read him saying there was nothing special about that guitar and that there was nothing magic about it...AND: "I wish I had it back again"....all in one interview. Lew
gripweed said:
Peter goes back and forth on that one! I've read him saying there was nothing special about that guitar and that there was nothing magic about it...AND: "I wish I had it back again"....all in one interview. Lew
