Phat Cats

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Just got this guitar below, and I am really impressed with the Phat Cats. Can't remember if I have ever had these pickups before. Just wondering how they sound in different styles guitars, or are they just well suited for semi hollows?

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I use one in the neck of my PRS SE baritone tuned to B flat. I rarely ever play clean, but when I do, it sounds very nice and spanky. I've never found the Phat Cat dark as some forum members here do, but that's just me. Under high gain, it's not bad at all, but I'd prefer if it wasn't quite as low output. Its not even that noisy with lots of distortion. So yeah, it definitely does well in more than semi hollows.
 
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Rex's description is spot on. Last used one in an Ibanez Talman TC-825 in the neck slot and it was great...fairly bright, but not piercing, spanky, good clean to driven and all-around fun.
 
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I have phat cats in the neck and bridge position of one of my Music Man Albert Lee guitars ... I think it sounds great, like an overdriven Strat when pushed, but clean and spanky when run without any overdrive. Does it turn the MMAL into a Tele or Strat, no ... does it make it its own animal, yes - more in the sphere of Brian May tone when overdriven ...IMHO.


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I have a pair of Phat Cats in purposely left-handed strat solid body build. Made from Black Korina and it is a hardtail. Sounds good. I don't have a tone control because of the design of my build so I am unable to control the tone of the pickups, the bridge pickup is a little trebley.
 
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If you're up to it, there are a lot of good tones hidden in a set of Phat Cats if you know what magnets to put in them.
Change the stock A2s for a pair of degaussed A5s and you can get a pretty good recreation of a vintage Gibson P90, which works especially well in darker guitars.
 
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P-90's aren't particularly popular with high gain players. They have a small but strong following in less distorted genres like blues, jazz, and classic rock. The thing with PC's is that they don't sound like P-90's, so they're in a niche of their own. I don't know if that was intentional or not. For me, a neck Phat Cat in an Epi LP & SG sounded like they were in a closet with the door closed. No treble. I think they'd sound better in bright woods, like Strats. In comparison, the bridge PC sounded weak, overpowered by the neck. Zhang, one of the forum pickup winders, solved that by taking 1,000 turns off his neck Phat Cat, which reduced output and added treble. That's not an option for most of us, so I swapped out magnets in mine. I love A2's in humbuckers, but they're just not a magnet I think works in a big single coil.

Most people getting Phat Cats are probably putting them in Gibson-design guitars, wanting that great P-90 sound in their HB guitars. P-90's shine with A5's, which give them clarity, a crisp high end, and a firm piano-like low end. You don't get those qualities with A2's. Phat Cats were an early HB-size single coil, and it doesn't seem like they were clear on what they were going for. Since PC's came out, a number of other PU makers have introduced their versions to catch the growing interest in P-90's, but have pretty much stayed with A5's so they sound like real P-90's. PC's are the only pickup I know of that doesn't have the baseplate screwed to the coil.. PC's have the cover holding the entire PU together. Strange. Plus they don't have an additional ground wire (3rd wire). The other HB-sized single coils I've seen haven't followed Duncan down that path either.

Phat Cats have a lot of potential with a couple design changes. They could also be offered in a few magnet configurations: A5's for a real P-90 sound, and a couple others. I've experimented with a variety of magnet combinations in my Phat Cats and P-90's, preferring an A5/A4 in the neck for a little less low end and a bit more mids, and an A8/A4 in the bridge to add output, warmth, and mids. To me, it almost looks as if Duncan hit on a good idea with PC's, a diamond in the rough, and then walked away from it instead of developing it further. That let competitors come in and take the bulk of the HB-size single coil market.
 
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Just got this guitar below, and I am really impressed with the Phat Cats. Can't remember if I have ever had these pickups before. Just wondering how they sound in different styles guitars, or are they just well suited for semi hollows?

k9hp3n.jpg

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I've used them in a Sheraton (both positions), an Epi Alleykat (bridge, SM-1n in the neck), an Epi LP neck slot paired with a PGb, and in an Alvarez strat-ish guitar with a pair of Femder 57/62's in the neck and middle.In the bridge position, I find them to be punchy and articulate without getting shrill. In the neck of the Sheraton, it's smooth and detailed, with a nice spank when combined with a bridge PC. In my LP, it's warm and smooth, with a bit too much low end, but I've had that issue with a lot of different neck pickups in that guitar. It matches well in output with the PGb and blends well tonally when clean in the middle position.
 
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