Pickup recommendation for LP

Hi everyone!

I'm a long time Duncan fan and have several in my guitars and have tried all of the passive offerings at one point or another except the new 59/Custom hybrid, which brings me to my question.

I'm looking for new pickups for my Les Paul. Current ones (that are not Duncans but rather boutiques) are just too dark and sound extremely muffled (then again, I'm losing my hearing because everything is sounding more dark than usual these days :laugh2:). Also, very compressed sounding to the point where the pick attack sounds like I have a compressor pedal turned on - very squashed and clucky. I've had others tell me the same so I know it's not my ears. :D I've got great caps in that guitar and I know it's wired fine. And I don't remember having this problem when I've had other pups in this guitar in the past.

So I'm looking for something different. Now I really, really like the 59s, JBs, and the APH-2s. What I'm looking for is something in between a '59 and a JB. Hotter than the '59 but not as hot as a Custom or JB. Also something with some brightness to it. Not too honky, not too dark. I really like the '59, just need more "balls".

The '59/Custom hybrid really seems like the thing to get but I didn't know how it would work in a LP. I did watch the video Frank did of the pickup and I liked what I heard and seemed to be what I'm after. I don't want to be changing mags, anything else, I just want to buy the pickup and drop it in. And I have a '59 neck to pair it with, just need a potted bridge pickup that as I said, would be best described as "vintage hot". Not too shrill but not too dark.

As far as what I play - Classic Rock, Southern Rock, Blues, etc. 60s/70s/80s. Pretty much everything from Cream to Eagles to GnR/KISS. But mainly I want something not as hot as a JB because it's going into a vintage type Les Paul (Gibson LP Classic) that I want as my "poor man's Burst" as I've been calling it, but I need more than what the '59 is giving me.

I have tried as I said all of the passive offerings from Duncan and I like the Pearly Gates but it's a tad too bright for me in this guitar. That said something like a slightly darker PG may be close what I'm after. I do like it's other qualities though. Also, the Duncan and Custom Custom is just too much as is the JB (and I have both in other guitars). I have the APH-2 Slash pickups in another LP and I dearly love those pickups (my favorite set so far from Duncan) but I want something different for this guitar. I'm not a fan of the APH-1s or the Duncan Distortion for my tastes. Also, Seth's are nice but I need something hotter and potted!

So I guess to summarize my needs, I need a potted bridge pickup, hotter than a '59 and not as hot as a JB/Custom, something that will go with a '59 neck pickup out of a vintage blues set, something stock I can order, and something that is good for Classic Rock and Blues and not too modern. I use pedals for gain through clean Blackface Fender amps and so I like the hotter pickups as my amps are dead clean (preference).

I am just wondering if anyone has had any experience with the stock '59/Custom hybrid (no mods to it) in the bridge position of a Les Paul that is on the heavy side.

Sorry for the long post but I wanted to make sure I'm giving the info for people to help me. I haven't tried the 59/Custom hybrid but I'm thinking it would be the ticket. I just want to make sure it's not too dark and that it has some bite/treble to it, but not as bright as say, a PG. Just need some others with experience to let me know before I buy it.

Thanks for all suggestions/help. I'm hoping to order something soon (tonight or tomorrow if possible) possibly as I'd like to get this guitar going again as it is my #1.. It's just that I'm sick of these pickups and should have ditched them long ago.

-Austin (gibsonguitar1988)
 
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I have heard nothing but good things about the "Bachbucker" or the 59/Custom Hybrid. Sounds like the one for sure. If I was in your shoes I would go for the hybrid :)
 
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Well the hybrid would be good. It's hotter than the 59 but not as hot as custom/JB.

Also the Screamin' Demon is hot-rodded 59 with a little more output and slightly different sound characteristics. Or you could go with hybrid in the bridge and the Demon in the neck for something totally different.

P-rails would be something to consider, maybe the Hot bridge with the normal neck. I've heard you can get very convincing "real" humbucker tones for the type of music you described.

Also the normal Palallel Axis's would be something cool. They bridge pup is on the hotter side of medium output. So if it's just too hot for you you could use the Blues Sarasceno Parallel Axis for the bridge which is medium output. Yes the bridge pup is trem-spaced but I've found that those actually line up better with Les Paul bridges anyway.
 
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I wouldn't go with the Screaming Demon. I put one in my Les Paul and it was way too trebly.
 
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I haven't tried one, so take this for what it's worth. But as I read your post, every other line I kept thinking 59/Custom Hybrid, 59/Custom Hybrid, 59/Custom Hybrid lol. It seems like its exactly what you're describing.
 
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I wouldn't go with the Screaming Demon. I put one in my Les Paul and it was way too trebly.

Well I've had the Demon in a bright strat-ish guitar and it was fine. I've also had JB in a dark sounding LP and it sounded quite trebly in that so you'd have to actually try it in the very guitar to get conclusive answers.
 
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Thanks everyone. I'll wait a bit longer for other advice and whatnot but I think the '59/Custom hybrid is the ticket. I just wish there was a demo of it in a LP for me to hear. Hence why I was asking if anyone has tried it. But I think it will work.

I think I'm losing my hearing because treble frequencies are getting harder to hear (sounding muffled) but these pickups I have now are just super compressed and muddy sounding and others have agreed. I just want to get it back up and running as it's my favorite guitar and I've had other pickups in there and I know it's not the guitar as I've had it for years and only recently in the past 2 years put these others in. I just need enough brightness out of the 59/Custom to be heard and not too dark. And I think from the sounds of it, it will work.

If all goes to plan I'll probably order one tomorrow.
 
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It's good in the neck of a LP that is too boomy in the neck with regular pickups.

Now, that I didn't try.

I put it in the bridge slot,
since I already like the Jazz
that is in the neck.
 
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Well I've had the Demon in a bright strat-ish guitar and it was fine. I've also had JB in a dark sounding LP and it sounded quite trebly in that so you'd have to actually try it in the very guitar to get conclusive answers.

True. I tried a JB, a Custom and a Screaming Demon all in my Les Paul.
The Custom won in that guitar, and then I messed up and decided to trade the Custom for a PAF pro. :banghead:
 
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Welcome aboard!
Before you do go swapping any pickups....what value are the pots in your current set up?
Also...i know you mentioned it, but dont write off magnet swapping. If you know how to swap pickups, then you have the skills. In fact swapping mags is a lot easier than swapping a pickup.
 
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Welcome aboard!
Before you do go swapping any pickups....what value are the pots in your current set up?
Also...i know you mentioned it, but dont write off magnet swapping. If you know how to swap pickups, then you have the skills. In fact swapping mags is a lot easier than swapping a pickup.

Stock Gibson pots (not for sure on the value) and Orange Drop Capacitors (.015 in neck, .022 in bridge). They work fine though - I've had other pickups in the guitar that sound great. It's just that these pickups I have now have got to go - they just aren't what I'm looking for.

And yeah it's not that I don't like the idea of magnet swapping, I just want to replace the pickups I have now with something completely different and just be done with it. I've fought them long enough and I'm just ready for a change.
 
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And yeah it's not that I don't like the idea of magnet swapping, I just want to replace the pickups I have now with something completely different and just be done with it. I've fought them long enough and I'm just ready for a change.

Replacing the magnets makes a new PU. You have much to learn grasshopper. :14: Until you try a couple different mags, you have no idea what an HB or P-90 has to offer.
 
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Replacing the magnets makes a new PU. You have much to learn grasshopper. :14: Until you try a couple different mags, you have no idea what an HB or P-90 has to offer.

Ok ease off on the mag swapping. It might not be everyone's cup of tea. If someone doesn't want to swap a mag, leave them in peace. Some like the pups as thay are, myself included, eventhouhg they might not 100% perfect for them.

No hard feelings.
 
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Replacing the magnets makes a new PU. You have much to learn grasshopper. :14: Until you try a couple different mags, you have no idea what an HB or P-90 has to offer.

I just want to go out and buy a whole new pickup already completed and change the whole thing - that's what I'm after. The pickups I have in there now are crud - and I want them gone.
 
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My 99 LP Classic is carrying a 59 N in the neck and Will Boggs VHP PAF with 8.5k A5. Go to a Boutique winder like Zhangbucker or Brandonwound or highorder and tell him what you want. I bet you get a great hot PAF.
 
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