Pickups for those who can't afford Pickups

Mr. B

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I've been teaching after school guitar lessons for high school students for almost a decade now. A lot has changed in that time. For instance, modeling amps like the Line 6 Spider has put an array of tones and effects within reach of a high schooler's budget. I don't feel like guitar quality has kept pace though. Although guitars are much less likely to have major structural defects now, the pickups in low end models are still horrible.

Too many students get tricked into buying 3-single-coil Squier Bullet strats when they want to play heavy metal. Even the humbucker equipped Squiers, Jacksons, and Epiphones have the worst sounding pickups ever in their lowest end models, and students do not have the money to buy a 3-400 dollar guitar with better pickups.

I've found a few good pickups that I can pick up cheap on Ebay that have good tone. The BHC pickups out of Epiphone Les Paul standards are a good combo. I can pick these up, in pairs, for around 25.00 on Ebay. I can use the neck in the bridge position for students who want a more rock/blues/classic metal oriented sound, and the bridge model there for those who are strictly metal players. My favorites though are the G-400 humbucker set out of an Epiphone SG standard, especially if the covers are removed and all the wax removed. They really are high quality sounding pickups after you remove those covers.

Squier also put out a H/S Tele Special several years ago that had a Duncan Distortion sounding bridge (a bit less harsh) and a really nice classic sounding neck single coil. Too bad they don't make that one any more.

With these, I can install pickups that will greatly improve their tone and they are only out the 12 dollar actual cost. I also keep the pickups that they are getting rid of as "payment", so I have something to install in student guitars where the pickups are broken and they can't afford to pay for new ones.

I know most of you will say you couldn't live with these, but if you could hear the students squawk about prices being too high when you offer to do a complete guitar setup and restring, with Daddario strings, for four dollars, you'd see what I mean.
 
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In your case, the important thing is connecting the students with the music, and that's what you help do using the process you describe. I say, "Good job!".
 
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+1, if it improves what they have, blessed be thee...

but there should be a way for forum members to contribute to deserving kids.
We forum members should put our discarded JBs together and create a pickup scholarship, where deserving young guitarists post a sound or vid sample and a brief essay.
 
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I know most of you will say you couldn't live with these, but if you could hear the students squawk about prices being too high when you offer to do a complete guitar setup and restring, with Daddario strings, for four dollars, you'd see what I mean.

:dot:

Dude.
 
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We forum members should put our discarded JBs together and create a pickup scholarship, where deserving young guitarists post a sound or vid sample and a brief essay.

I only see more JBs going into my guitars. Maybe I could search the local landfills for some of the Epiphone and Ibanez pickups I've thrown away over the years.

In all seriousness, though, a lot of guitar stores that take in used stuff seem to have a few sets of cast-off factory pickups from some Fender or Epiphone sitting around, for sale. Usually dirt-cheap.
 
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Kudos to you, man. You're doing a great sevice to those students and to the music community. By helping those students you may well be fascilitating the developement and future carrer of a potential musical giant.

Hopefully, all of those students will one day recognize the sevice you have provided and will appreciate you for doing it.
 
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I'll echo the other guys . . . jolly good job mate !


Used Duncan pick ups can also be had for very ittle money, not just used Epiphone units.

I've seen many times guys selling on eVilleBay and C.List stock Gibson units that come out of the faded LPs/SGs and other entry level Gibsons for silly low prices.
Just keep a constant eye out on C.List.
 
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I've been teaching after school guitar lessons for high school students for almost a decade now. A lot has changed in that time. For instance, modeling amps like the Line 6 Spider has put an array of tones and effects within reach of a high schooler's budget.

My first amp in 1985 was a Gorilla "Tube Crunch" TC35 for $99. Horrible. I ripped the guts out and made it a tube amp. Someone is selling one on craigslist for $65. It's been there for quite some time.

I don't feel like guitar quality has kept pace though. Although guitars are much less likely to have major structural defects now, the pickups in low end models are still horrible.

Too many students get tricked into buying 3-single-coil Squier Bullet strats when they want to play heavy metal.
My first guitar was an Aria Pro 2 RS Classic with 3 weak (< 6K) pickups and a V-Trem. I wasn't tricked, just uninformed. Imagine this going thru the TC35 amp and wanting it to sound like Dio. LOL!

Even the humbucker equipped Squiers, Jacksons, and Epiphones have the worst sounding pickups ever in their lowest end models, and students do not have the money to buy a 3-400 dollar guitar with better pickups.

I think I paid around $425 total for my setup back then. I wonder how much that would be in today's money?

FWIW I still have that Aria Pro 2. It's been routed, hack painted at least 3 times. It's currently a single hum (Screamin Demon) Bengal with a Kahler 2700 Killer trem. I took it out after not playing it for a long time and damn if it doesn't still sound great.
 
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Man I wish someone had done this for me when I was a kid!!!!!!!

GFS are pretty decent pickups for the price too. Not spectacular, but a Hot Rails type pickup for $29 isn't bad!

My sons have the Squier Mini Strats with stock pickups. They sound good enough for a 7 & 3 year old, but I've been thinking about putting a '59 or Hot Rails in the older boy's guitar.
 
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Hopefully, all of those students will one day recognize the sevice you have provided

I've had a couple come back after they graduated with a used guitar that they have purchased. They were a bit surprised when they took it to the local music store, and they wanted 30-70 dollars to do a full setup and string change. I just like to work on guitars, so I will polish and clean the guitar/fretboard, set the neck relief, intonation, string height and radius, pickup height, and restring it, for the cost of the strings. (4 dollars)

I teach free group lessons one day per week, and have 5 guitar/amps available for students who don't have their own during the class. I also have an electric guitar and line 6 POD that they can rent for free over the weekend. The kids where I teach don't always have a lot of opportunities, and this is my way of letting them develop interest in something they may not be able to afford to buy. I've known other schools that had jazz guitar or classical, but we are all about rock and roll, and a lot of the students love it.
 
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