Pickups in a Ibanez S470

[Gothian]

Hello everyone.

I bought an Ibanez S470 and a "Duncan Distortion" a "Dimebucker" and a "Quarter Pound" to install in it.

I installed them following the same colors than the original Ibanez and they worked just fine..... my question is, I didn't do anything with the bare and green cables, as the original Ibanez pickups didn't have any of those (only the red, white and black)

The pickups work fine, but I just wanted to ask if it is OK to leave those alone..... I don't want to have future problems.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help..... and let me tell you my guitar rocks now !!

Greetings, Gothian

 

[tone4days]

Re: Pickups in a Ibanez S470

welcome to the board

you need to ground the green and bare wires ... you might want to check the schematics to be sure that the color schemes match between the pickups you had and the new SDs ... i am not sure how you expected the pickups to work, but i would be concerned that the pickups are not wired to their full potential the way you wired it ... you especially want to be sure that the green and bare wires arent exposed in the cavity - the risk is that they could short out the signal path and cause trouble for you

what kind of switch are you using? 3 way, 5 way? .... and what pickup combinations do you get at the various switch positions?

for full humbucking of the SDs, you usually need red and white joined together, green to ground and black is hot (to switch) ...

tell us more and we'll help as much as we can
cheers
t4d

 

[NathanCahill]

Re: Pickups in a Ibanez S470

The green and bare should be soldered together and to ground, the red and white wires should be soldered together an insulated, etc. On the main page goto the support option and check out the schematics.

I hate getting distracted! When I post. Makes me look slow.

 

[Gothian]

Re: Pickups in a Ibanez S470

Thanks a lot for your reply.

I have a 5 switch with the standard positions when you have one humbucker in the bridge (Dimebucker) one single in the middle (quarter pound) and one humbucker in the neck (Duncan Distortion)

The switch seems to work properly in all positions.

The red and white cables are not together (as they werent in the stock pickups), and when you say that green and bare need to be grounded, you mean I have to weld them in any metal part?..... or there shoud be a "ground-spot" somewhere inside the guitar ?!

Thanks again !

 

[tone4days]

Re: Pickups in a Ibanez S470

you're welcome - happy to help

you cant go by the stock pickup wire colors ... all pickup mfrs use different color codes

yes, green and bare usually get soldered to the back of a volume or tone pot, which in turn is 'grounded' to the output jack

good luck
t4d

 

[Gothian]

Re: Pickups in a Ibanez S470

OK, I see... the problem is that in the wiring diagram of Ibanez, they don't say what means each cable, and they only use 3, take a look in this link (please take a look and tell me what you think): http://www.ibanez.com/wiring/wire.asp?y=2004&w=S470

As you can see, the red and white cables go to different places, but it doesn't say anywhere what does the red or white cables really are.

I'm going to "ground" the green and bare tonight.

Thanks

 

[Gothian]

Re: Pickups in a Ibanez S470

There are no schematics for my kind of config in the support page

 

[tone4days]

Re: Pickups in a Ibanez S470

ok - here ya go:


where the red wire from the old bridge pickup connected to the switch, you need to put the black wire from the dimebucker...

where the red wire from the old neck pickup connected to the switch, you need to put the black wire from the distortion ...

where the red wire from the old middle pickup connected to the switch, you need to put the black wires from the QP ...

on the new dimebucker, you have to connect the red and white wires, then cover them in tape so that they dont touch anything else

on the new distortion, you have to connect the red and white wires, then cover them in tape so that they dont touch anything else

the green wire from the dimebucker has to go where the old white wire went from the bridge pickup ... the green wire from the distortion has to go where the old white wire went from the neck pickup

the bare wire from the distortion, the white wire from the QP, and the bare wires from the dimebucker all need to be grounded to the back of the volume pot


ok?

 

[tone4days]

Re: Pickups in a Ibanez S470

bump so the new tone brother gets to see it

anyone care to double check me?

cheers
t4d

 

[NathanCahill]

Re: Pickups in a Ibanez S470

After looking at the schematic for a while I think you're right on the money.

 

[Gothian]

Re: Pickups in a Ibanez S470

tone4days, thanks a lot again for your help...... I really went through all the schematics yesterday and the one you are telling me is this one (without split: http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/hum_sing_hum_vol_5way.html )

And I used this one (with split: http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/hum_sing_hum_vol_tone_spl.html )

is it ok? ... the guitar sounds great with that config.... I assume that the split means that in the position 2 and 4 the humbucker uses only one half of it along with the Quarter Pound, just as the original Ibanez pickups...... Am I right?

Thanks !!

 

[tone4days]

Re: Pickups in a Ibanez S470

tone4days, thanks a lot again for your help...... I really went through all the schematics yesterday and the one you are telling me is this one (without split: http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/hum_sing_hum_vol_5way.html )

And I used this one (with split: http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/hum_sing_hum_vol_tone_spl.html )

is it ok? ... the guitar sounds great with that config.... I assume that the split means that in the position 2 and 4 the humbucker uses only one half of it along with the Quarter Pound, just as the original Ibanez pickups...... Am I right?

Thanks !!

you're welcome

i cant be sure what the differences are ... but hey, if you are happy with the tone, then that's all that matters

enjoy
cheers
t4d

 

[Gothian]

Re: Pickups in a Ibanez S470

Yesterday I used this new guitar in the rehearsal (the one with the Duncan pickups) and everything went fine, but now I have another question...... What is the difference between ussing coil split config or without coil split?...... with what config I get more power?... we play Death Metal !!

 

[NathanCahill]

Re: Pickups in a Ibanez S470

You won't necessarily have more "power" with either, just a different tone.

 

[Gothian]

Re: Pickups in a Ibanez S470

ok.... Thanks a lot