played a bunch of amps today: 65, Reinhardt, Headstong, lunchbox...

Hot _Grits

Buttery Toneologist
My friend had a combined shipment come in today so I hurried over to try everything before some of it flew out the door to preorders.

First up, the two new 65 amps:

The 'lil Elvis combo with a G12H30 was the first thing I plugged into. I can see this becoming a big fave of anyone going after voxy tone in a low volume package. It's supposedly based off a design that Vox never made, and it's certainly in that camp tonally, brighter than the non-top boost kind of tone that the London's ef86 channel gets, though you can get quite close to London territory if you ratchet back the tone knob.

Pushed to breakup the lil Elvis has a cool old school Voxy raunch that isn't as tight and glassy as many modern Vox-derived amps. A more medium gain, old school sound than a small badcat or the Night train. All in all a killer little amp with fantastic cleans and low-medium drive tones, all at a very polite volume. Ideal for modern low volume stage requirements, as well as studio and home. Interestingly it has more clean headroom than the higher wattage london...

The Stone Pony (low wattage head version) is really neat, a genuine new sound. It's the SoHo bump front end with 7591s in the power section, a tip of the hat to certain smaller ampeg designs from the 60s. Played clean it has a certain amount of that wide, detailed clean tone that the Soho has, though a touch earthier.

Pushed to overdrive on the bump side it has a fantastic tone that is really unlike anything out there right now. It retains the high end but adds a throaty lower mid to the tone, so you get a sound that has sparkle and ring to it in a very unique way, but also is warm and ballsy. It can also push out a decent amount of gain when cranked, and the new master voltage control works very well at allowing you to get there at lesser volumes. though like any attenuation or power scaling it won't take you to true home volumes without losing some tone.

Hats off to 65 for making something that sounds genuinely new and really comfortable and familiar at the same time.

Next up, I tried a Reinhardt 18, which is a derivation of the classic Marshall18w head. This version had power scaling, two non switchable channels (one TMB) and a vintage/modern switch.

If you know the 18w marshall tone then you'll know what this amp does. I'd say it's a superior amp to the marshall reissues, and I think it's what many people would expect or hope for and not actually find when they plug into a marshall 18 for the first time.

The tone is thicker than a regular 18, with more bottom, which makes it a very comfortable amp to listen to and negates some of the EL84 glassiness when pushed to crunch. Using a Les Paul Custom with high output bare knuckles the heavy rock (think roughly JCM800 gain) were killer and more authentically 'big marshall' than an 18 can usually give you.

Plus the modern switch takes a little of the old school rawness out for anyone who in reality is tuned to more modern amps than the 60s/early 70s marshalls. A great switch for dudes who think they are into old-school tones but find out the aren't when they actually use one. To sum up, one KILLER low volume Marshall 18, with more balls than I've heard from this type of amp. Great lowish volume rock'n'roll tones.

After that, two small fender-derived amps from headstrong: a 'lil king reverb and a 'lil King S.

The 'lil King reverb is Headstrong's replica of the '64 Princeton reverb. Having heard the fender reissue I've gotta say that this is the amp that reissue wishes it was. A more detailed, pleasing clean tone that nails the small blackface thing right through to surprisingly cool upper-medium gain tones. I really enjoyed the cranked tones from this little guy, which is something I've found recently with blackface-style amps. Plus great reverb.

The 'lil King S is just what I like in a clean fender: more brownface in tone, which is warmer than blackface, but not tweed-thick. The cleans on this amp reminded me of my old vibrolux but better. Pushed to overdrive the tone is thicker in the mids than the other headstrong, more of a typical overdriven fender tone, and a great one at that. There's a hint of looseness due to the uprated (2x6l6) power section being shackled by the less efficient princeton phase inverter, and this gives this amp a great character that sets it apart from amps like the vibrolux or deluxe reverb. I LOVED this amp.

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Finally, I tried a ZT lunchbox through a bogner 2x12. I was really impressed to find a credible, tube-like tone at a totally giggable volume. Obviously this amp isn't a real tube amp, let alone in the class of the other stuff I tried, but you could totally forget you're playing solid state. A great practice or backup amp, and perfect if you just don't want to lug heavy stuff.

So there you go. Usually when some amps come down there's stuff I think is awesome and stuff that is not as cool, or isn't my bag. This time everything was killer. I'd love one of each. Cool day.
 
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Thanks for the great reviews H_G, good to hear there are companies actually making the amps that the big name reissues are pretending to be. Also refreshing to hear about some new-ish concepts and sounds getting around.




Cheers..................................... wahwah
 
Re: played a bunch of amps today: 65, Reinhardt, Headstong, lunchbox...

Thanks for the great reviews H_G, good to hear there are companies actually making the amps that the big name reissues are pretending to be. Also refreshing to hear about some new-ish concepts and sounds getting around.




Cheers..................................... wahwah

Dude, you would love the headstrongs. In fact I wonder how close the 'lil king with single 12 is to your super champs...
 
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Next up, I tried a Reinhardt 18, which is a derivation of the classic Marshall18w head. This version had power scaling, two non switchable channels (one TMB) and a vintage/modern switch.

If you know the 18w marshall tone then you'll know what this amp does. I'd say it's a superior amp to the marshall reissues, and I think it's what many people would expect or hope for and not actually find when they plug into a marshall 18 for the first time.

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I've played a number of EL 34 Marshalls. I have not played the Marshall 18. Is it a typical EL 84 amp? It sounds like you are saying the Reinhardt gets around that.

Boy, I like what you are saying about this amp. What is the street cost ($NZ or US is fine)?
 
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I've played a number of EL 34 Marshalls. I have not played the Marshall 18. Is it a typical EL 84 amp? It sounds like you are saying the Reinhardt gets around that.

Boy, I like what you are saying about this amp. What is the street cost ($NZ or US is fine)?

Well you get a lot of people that will tell you that the Marshall 18 sounds like a big marshall only smaller. That's kind of correct, in that it sounds like a Marshall, but the breakup and top end is different, and if you're familiar with EL84 breakup you'll notice that sound. So it's the vintage Marshall thing filtered through EL84s.

This amp still sounds like an EL84 Marshall 18, but the thicker voicing tends to counteract some of the toppiness and fizziness of standard Marshall 18s, as well as doing a good job of reminding you of the low end of a bigger Marshall.

So, to sum, still has the 18 thing, but the most beleivable big marshall sound I've yet heard in an 18. At one point my friend played 'them bones' by AIC and it sounded fantastic. That's not a riff that sounds right on a regular 18. I could also get vaguely VH with it, and it sounded great for ACDC, Lizzy, G'nR kinds of tones. Again, not exact, but it's easy to forget that and just enjoy playing the amp.
 
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Nice, thanks for the GAS mate!

A guy needs to have a goal, and that amp sounds like a good one for me. Low watts w/a kick a$$ sound...

Just went to their site, some nice stuff there. The 6V6 18 looks interesting also.
 
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Nice, thanks for the GAS mate!

A guy needs to have a goal, and that amp sounds like a good one for me. Low watts w/a kick a$$ sound...

Just went to their site, some nice stuff there. The 6V6 18 looks interesting also.

The 6V6 18w is probably more authentic sounding, as 6V6s are similar in some respects to EL34s. The 6V6 fargen Marshall-alike sounds great (on youtube).
 
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Pushed to breakup the lil Elvis has a cool old school Voxy raunch that isn't as tight and glassy as many modern Vox-derived amps. A more medium gain, old school sound than a small badcat or the Night train. All in all a killer little amp with fantastic cleans and low-medium drive tones, all at a very polite volume. Ideal for modern low volume stage requirements, as well as studio and home. Interestingly it has more clean headroom than the higher wattage london...

So the Lil Elvis is Voxy huh? My overall favorite tone is a top-boost AC30 into the brilliant channel (so the treble/bass EQ is in) jumped over to normal with both volumes around 2 o'clock. Amazing tone, but insanely loud... and its just not the same turned down.

How do you think the Elvis would compare to that, in terms of grind vs. overall volume? There isn't a 65 amps dealer anywhere near me... It'd be a 2+ hour drive in any direction. After playing the Lightning a handful of times and the Marshall 18 watt I ended up with a Tiny Terror... which is sort of in the ballpark... and a cool amp w/ some good tubes in there... but not all that close to the Vox girth.
 
Re: played a bunch of amps today: 65, Reinhardt, Headstong, lunchbox...

So the Lil Elvis is Voxy huh? My overall favorite tone is a top-boost AC30 into the brilliant channel (so the treble/bass EQ is in) jumped over to normal with both volumes around 2 o'clock. Amazing tone, but insanely loud... and its just not the same turned down.

How do you think the Elvis would compare to that, in terms of grind vs. overall volume? There isn't a 65 amps dealer anywhere near me... It'd be a 2+ hour drive in any direction. After playing the Lightning a handful of times and the Marshall 18 watt I ended up with a Tiny Terror... which is sort of in the ballpark... and a cool amp w/ some good tubes in there... but not all that close to the Vox girth.

Are you talking about your typical top boost cranked sound? -I'd say the 'lil Elvis does a decent job of the overall balance of sound, but is a tad looser when cranked and a bit lighter in the bottom due to being a smaller amp. The overdrive isn't tight and glassy lik a badcat or the night train, more old-school.
 
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Yes indeed... cranked up top-boost being pushed with a Les Paul. That's about the only way I like a Vox, actually. Some of the Z's I've played, and the Lightening get close... but there's still the volume issue. I have little use for an amp that needs to be on "11" all the time... or one that only has three volumes; loud, louder, and off.
 
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Well from a low volume perspective the lil Elvis is great. It was designed for dudes who found the London to be too loud for their onstage uses. Plus the Master Voltage cranks it back more, and sounds good for about half it's travel. So low volume=no problem.
 
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Cool review Martin, thanks for sharing!

I bet you have the most finely tuned ears in the country to be able to pick out all the nuances of every amp you demo.......must be a trip to see you go through em! Curious to hear what kind of licks/styles do you test them all with - I'd gamble some of the tones you come across make you lean a certain way and try things you have no idea you knew you could do. Awesome :friday:
 
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