PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR

[nieveulv]

Currently owns an epi les paul custom with duncans PGN/custom with CTS pots and orange caps and all gibson electronics and i absolutely loved it!!

Im looking for a different guitar and an upgrade. I love the feel of the les paul but looking for something different (24 frets, tremolo etc) to try new stuff
So which guitar is recommended for me and im interested in these 2 choices as they both looks amazing!!!

My style of music is classic/modern rock (GNR, alter bridge) and Radiohead and blues

-budger is approx USD 3000 max but to the the limited choices i have in my country, i may not know most guitars :thu:
-Which is recommended and why? Now my choices are the PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR
-is there other choices and what?
-since i loved the les paul epi, should i just stick to buying a gibson les paul 58s vOS?

My amp is a fender concert tube amp 4x10. Thank you for any feedback and advices!! ROCK ON!!

 

[3'scompany]

Re: PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR

As much as this probably won't help, go play each first. Spending that much money, I'd let your hands and ears make the decisions, not let a bunch of somewhat (mis)informed yokels on the internet tell you what to buy.

I have no experience with EBMM guitars, but have plenty of experience with several PRS models. Some love PRS, a lot hate them :laugh2:. Somethings to be conscious of are the neck profiles, 25" scale and the pickups... oh, and that finish that is an inch thick (p.s. that was me being sarcastic). While I love the widefat necks, a lot think they're too big. But if you're looking at the Cu24 then the w/f isn't even an option.

As for the scale length and pickups? Well, as with most things, they aren't inherently bad, they just aren't your typical Gibson or Fender fare. So a lot of people get turned off by these guitars because they don't bridge the gap between Fender and Gibson like most people falsely have it built up in their mind that they should.

But, if you can handle doing a pickup swap or two to find the right sound and like the other appointments of PRS's typical build you'll find yourself with a pretty nice axe in my opinion.

For EBMM? Dunno. Never played one. But as I said before, go play both. If you're spending $3k of your own money, the only one that should be deciding how to spend that cash is your own tastes.

Edit: Also, if you find that after playing some guitars you still want something different but don't want a tremelo or 24 frets, look at the McCarty and SC250 models. Great guitars in my book. And if you decide you still want a shorter scale length, check out the SC245s.

 

[Yngwiestein]

Re: PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR

PRS is a fantastic idea bro. I have 2 Gibbys and 4 PRS myself. I would NOT recommend a 24 fret PRS though. I had one and it was my least favorite. Part of the great tone in a PRS comes from the short scale. The HFS pickups that come with them are my least favorite PRS pickups. They are good but to me lack mojo. I recommend a custom 22 w maple top or a singlecut w trem. Just the feel and sound are amazing.

If I had the dough to afford one it would be a Modern Eagle. Any of the ones in thes pics

 

[NUNOSLASH]

Re: PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR

PRS is a fantastic idea bro. I have 2 Gibbys and 4 PRS myself. I would NOT recommend a 24 fret PRS though. I had one and it was my least favorite. Part of the great tone in a PRS comes from the short scale. The HFS pickups that come with them are my least favorite PRS pickups. They are good but to me lack mojo. I recommend a custom 22 w maple top or a singlecut w trem. Just the feel and sound are amazing.

If I had the dough to afford one it would be a Modern Eagle. Any of the ones in thes pics

Dude, those guitars....AMAZING!!!!

 

[Yngwiestein]

Re: PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR

Dude, those guitars....AMAZING!!!!

Problem is they are too nice to gig with. If I was rich I would gig with them.

 

[3'scompany]

Re: PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR

Problem is they are too nice to gig with. If I was rich I would gig with them.

:laugh2:

No guitar is too nice to gig with!

While my Cu22 artist package is not a Modern Eagle, it is about as close as you can get in regards to both price and appointments. That thing has seen 9 years of stage use and over 40K miles of pavement! It has it's bumps and bruises but sounds and plays great. If you can truly afford a guitar, you can afford to gig with it (IMO).


But feel free to disagree. I guess I just have a different mindset than most.

 

[Yngwiestein]

Re: PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR

:laugh2:

No guitar is too nice to gig with!

While my Cu22 artist package is not a Modern Eagle, it is about as close as you can get in regards to both price and appointments. That thing has seen 9 years of stage use and over 40K miles of pavement! It has it's bumps and bruises but sounds and plays great. If you can truly afford a guitar, you can afford to gig with it (IMO).


But feel free to disagree. I guess I just have a different mindset than most.

You are one of the few then who make enough from gigging to tote around an $11,000 guitar. Many pro musicians make little more than double that in a year!

 

[nieveulv]

Re: PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR

Wow never knew the custom 24 is not recommended So if just between the custom 22, sc250 and sc245 which would be the most recommended? In my country, i have to order the product so i cant test the products before buying it. Thanks guys!! Been a great help!!

 

[Luke Duke]

Re: PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR

PRS is a fantastic idea bro. I have 2 Gibbys and 4 PRS myself. I would NOT recommend a 24 fret PRS though. I had one and it was my least favorite. Part of the great tone in a PRS comes from the short scale. The HFS pickups that come with them are my least favorite PRS pickups. They are good but to me lack mojo. I recommend a custom 22 w maple top or a singlecut w trem. Just the feel and sound are amazing.

If I had the dough to afford one it would be a Modern Eagle. Any of the ones in thes pics

This is a pickup forum, we change out pickups...so the HFS shouldn't be a problem. :naughty:

Luke

 

[3'scompany]

Re: PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR

You are one of the few then who make enough from gigging to tote around an $11,000 guitar. Many pro musicians make little more than double that in a year!

:laugh2: I wasn't making much at all on tour. Just enough to survive... and barely. It's just that I had my gear insured and am not afraid to play my guitars. I also watched my gear like a hawk.

And a correction here. I was grossly misinformed about the cost of a modern eagle. I thought they were like $4.5-$5k, not $11.5K. Yikes! That is Private Stock price for a production guitar. Wow. I don't know what PRS is doing on that one. But I guess people are buying them, so more power to them.

Wow never knew the custom 24 is not recommended So if just between the custom 22, sc250 and sc245 which would be the most recommended? In my country, i have to order the product so i cant test the products before buying it. Thanks guys!! Been a great help!!

The Cu24 is not a bad guitar by any means and the Dave Navarro model looks way sweet in Jet White... especially when you consider the truss rod cover is the only thing with his name on it. I just recommended some other options to try out as well if you decided (after playing some) that you really didn't want 24 frets, a trem, or the 25" scale length. The Cu24 isn't frowned upon by me, but they also aren't for me.

Really, between the 22, 24, 250 and 245 it is all personal preference. This assuming you really do like PRS guitars after playing them. I'd just hate to see you order a $3k guitar and find out you aren't floored by it. You may be, but that is a big monetary risk. That is why I recommend you play one if at all possible. I would hope there would be some dealers in Australia. Though PRS is one of the few brands I would have no problem buying sight unseen. But this is because I already know I mesh with them. Tough situation dude. Hope you can get some actual seat time with one.

 

[alex1fly]

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Some love PRS, a lot hate them :laugh2:.

You sure? Most of the PRS hate I've read is from people that never owned one... in fact, I've only heard one of one person who made a real effort to get to know PRS guitars and found that he didn't like them. Those who do like them are pretty passionate. I'd say "a lot love PRS, some hate them." Just my opinion though.

 

[3'scompany]

Re: PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR

You sure? Most of the PRS hate I've read is from people that never owned one... in fact, I've only heard one of one person who made a real effort to get to know PRS guitars and found that he didn't like them. Those who do like them are pretty passionate. I'd say "a lot love PRS, some hate them." Just my opinion though.

I think there is a lot of truth to what you say here. But there sure are a lot of people who have never played them and like to run their mouths about how they suck (mainly because of their supposed image) or have only played one model or heard one in only one setting and write them off with very limited experience. After all, it is only "blues lawyers" and doctors who buy PRS guitars rolleyes and those people aren't "true" musicians. :laugh2:

 

[uOpt]

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I have just gone through a McCarty and a MusicMan Steve Morse.

I liked the MM better. A major part is the electronics setup, but let's leave that aside.

Both had pretty much perfect craftmanship and I prefer the painted neck on the PRS and the not so radically flat fretboard.

But the McCarty was too much Les Paul sound wise, a category in which it couldn't beat my Burny LP. The stock PRS pickups I didn't like.

The neck on the MM, apart from not being painted, is just a piece of art. I cannot point out any flaw with the PRS's neck or fretwork, but the birdseye maple carved to perfection on the MM is jut something to behold.

In general, I think I have decided that I want maple necks, except in real-thing Les Pauls.

I prefer playing on the shorter scale, but there is some aspect of the longer scale's sound that makes it easier to achieve certain techniques with a wider variety of pickups. The Gibson scale makes more pickups sound bad, that's my experience.

Oh and the MM has a rosewood fretboard like I've never felt one. Slicker than most painted maple fretboards.

Hope this helps. I would have worshipped the McCarty if I didn't have the Burny but the MM is something I should have gotten much earlier, like 25 years ago.

 

[Top Jimmy]

Re: PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR

Love my EBMM JP6, but depending on your sound you might want to swap bridge pickups in it, if you bought it. I'm assuming the BFR models have the D-Sonic in it also. Nice pickup for metal, prog, crunchy chug sounds, but not a open sounding rock pickup. The neck pickup is nice and of course the piezo is nice to have too.

 

[jony]

Re: PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR

The necks are very different. A proper EBMM neck is something everyone has to experience at least once.

 

[Yngwiestein]

Re: PRS custom 24/22 and EBMM JP6 BFR

Wow never knew the custom 24 is not recommended So if just between the custom 22, sc250 and sc245 which would be the most recommended? In my country, i have to order the product so i cant test the products before buying it. Thanks guys!! Been a great help!!

Well I wouldn't recommend one and I used to own 2 of them. It's not so much the pickups but the way it sounds and the thinner neck. The shorter scale in my opinion is one thing that gives PRS its magic, like Gibson Les Pauls. A 24 fret LP just isn't the same bro.

If you want a very Les Paul like tone the SC245 is a great choice. The SC250, the least popular between the 245 & 250 does not sound the same. Custom 22 is a fantastic choice because you get that in between strat and LP kind of thing. They are a little lighter than the SC models. PRS singlecuts are pretty heavy like non chambered Les Pauls.

The best way to get a feel for one is to go to a guitar shop and play 50s & 60s neck Les Pauls. Only PRS is comfortable to hold in your lap. If you like the feel of Les Pauls you should also consider a McCarty.