Put Alnico 8's In Today...

JarickL

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Guess I'm gonna be a guinea pig here.

Got home from work, went to the guitar shop in town (Twin Town in Minneapolis, gotta love 'em), and picked myself up a Cort Katana. I know you're shaking your heads at me, but you have to play it to believe it. And at $350 with a bag, it didn't break the bank and makes a great 4th guitar (behind my '93 Gibson LP Studio, '98 Fender California Strat, and '97 Tacoma DR20).

Anyways, first things first, I ripped the thing apart. Filled the strap button holes with toothpicks and wood glue for drilling tomorrow for the smaller Schaller strap button screws, took off the tiny little 9's, and put some 11-54's on there (this will be my open-C guitar for now). In case you want to know, this is the nicest guitar that I've worked on from a quality standpoint. The fit and finish was a little off from the others, but the routing was brilliant, control cavity easy to work in, and nice little touches like a TonePros bridge stock and shielded control cavity show that the Koreans can build one hell of a guitar.

Wiring was a bitch (stupid DPDT's), but eventually I got it done. The guitar came stock with two humbuckers (about 16k and 21k!), master volume, master tone, 3-way selector, and push-pull coil tap. I was suprised to find they used decent 500k pots on here.

Anyways, I installed Alnico 8 magnets into the pickups, which are a JB/C5 hybrid in the bridge, and a Jazz neck. My previous guitar was a Les Paul with JB/Jazz combo, which I installed into a Gibson LP dual cutaway. Granted, the LP is a chambered guitar so it isn't quite an even match, and it's 24.75/22-fret whereas the Cort is 25.5/24, but they're both mahogany body/neck, maple top, and rosewood fretboard. Test amp was a Marshall JCM 2000 DSL50 going into an Avatar V30 4x12.

The A8's really fattened up these pickups. My LP studio was really dark with the JB/Jazz, and the LP DC is really bright with the JB/Jazz. This guitar is kind of in between, leaning towards the darker side, but with a tighter bass and more "balls." The hybrid pickup would probably be on the hi-fi side of frequency response, but it's got a real middy tone with a nice chunky bass. Perfect for modern rock, but I think the mismatched coils might be killing a bit too much of the highs. I can see myself swapping this pickup out for a Custom 8 down the road, but then again, it might just be the V30's.

The Jazz with A8 in the neck is a weird but good pickup. I really like stock Jazz pickups - at least in my dark LP studio with ebony fretboard, where I think it's perfect - so I am a bit biased. The A8 seemed to take the highs down a bit and boost the mids a touch. Instead of sounding slightly scooped, it now sounds slighlty boosted in the mids. It's a fun pickup, for sure, but I might just have to try the A5 in there as well, as I liked it stock on my other guitar.

So what's my consensus? A8's seem to tighten up the bass, increase the mids, and reduce the highs of A5 pickups while increasing output somewhat. I'd recommend the swap if you're looking for the characteristics of a certain pickup but in a really bright guitar to tone it down. I think it would kill the complexity too much in a standard or dark guitar.

I'll have to let other ears listen to them and get back to you, but it certainly was a fun experiment.
 
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Oh I forgot the coil-tap sound!

I don't know if I have a C5 or JB in the screw coil of my bridge (I have a sneaking suspicion it's a C5 because I don't remember by JB being so trebly), but CLOSE YOUR EYES AND IT'S A TELE. I have no idea how, but it's got the coolest spank I've ever heard. The A8 darkens up the tone a bit but adds some midrange punch and kicks its ass. I really dig this tone, really dig it.

The Jazz 8 split is a real sweet sound. Sparkly but not too bright. It sounds a little anemic, but not as much as the stock Jazz when split. I love neck single coils, and this one sounds great. Put the two together, and it sounds kind of like a tele in the middle, but I don't think they're wired the same because it's not balanced quite as well (bridge is a little dominant).

Oh, and this guitar has way more sustain than my Les Paul. Didn't notice much of a difference with the A8 in the bridge, but then again, I think the A5 Motherbuckers were really high output.
 
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Never underestimate A cheapish guitar, that has crap pickups, but everything else is solid. Like Old Cheap jap fenders. pickups are ****, electronics arnt to hot, get that fixed, and bam. Decent amp. I was in the local shop today with my Jap strat ( has **** pickups ) but still sounded better then the 4 grand Made in America strat.
 
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Alnico 8 is so different from aln5 , it takes time to realise if you like it or not .
Keep on playing !
 
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So after some time of testing JarickL how do you compare alnico 8 and 5 in your pickups ; did you get use to it or not ?
 
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This weekend I'm switching to a PG/Custom hybrid A2 in my bridge, but I STILL have a hankering to try an Alnico 8 in there at some point, just to see what it does.
Anyone have some spare A8 mags for sale?
:)
 
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Hey, I know this is an old thread, but I'm gonna give you guys an update.

The pickups sound great, but might just be too fat and full for my tastes. I miss the brightness of the A5 Jazz and I never even heard the JB/C5 without the A8, so I don't know how that would sound. It's a real full sound, and I kind of like a little cut.

So I'm going back to A5's to see how that goes.
 
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Jarick, if you'd like to sell the A8 I'd be interested. I also have A2-3-4-5 and Ceramic mags if you want a trade.
 
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So you will remove the 8 from the Jazz ? and the JB/C as well ?
Actually the alnico 8 bring a lot of mids and low mids , so it is good to fatten bridge p-u .
The Demon with alnico 8 is still a screamer but more muscular , a JB with al 8 would have more bottom , more dark .
 
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Fritz6 said:
Jarick, if you'd like to sell the A8 I'd be interested. I also have A2-3-4-5 and Ceramic mags if you want a trade.

Hehe, I only paid $10 for the pair, and I've got a lot of ideas for the A8's :smokin:

Thanks though!
 
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fab.regnaut said:
So you will remove the 8 from the Jazz ? and the JB/C as well ?
Actually the alnico 8 bring a lot of mids and low mids , so it is good to fatten bridge p-u .
The Demon with alnico 8 is still a screamer but more muscular , a JB with al 8 would have more bottom , more dark .

Yeah, I'm gonna try them without. They're just too fat for me. I don't know if the JB/C5 is going to be a nice fuller-range (i.e. more low end and less mids) pickup.

I LOVE the stock Jazz. That's my favorite neck pickup for sure. The JB rocked, but it was just too many mids and not enough lows. Could have used a little sparkle up top. That's why I hope the hybrid does the trick.
 
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fab.regnaut said:
A JB/C5 hybrid shouldn't need the al 8 , cause already balanced .

Sweet! :6:

I'm swapping mags tonight...

By the way, when you swap magnets, do you need to repot the humbuckers? My guitar has a good deal more feedback than I'm used to...
 
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