quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

[devilfish]

hi,

i am looking at these 2 auctions on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Genuine-Kluso...sPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/6-GROVER-INLI...ryZ41434QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

any idea about quality/value? or any experiences with either would be a great help.

thanks very much

 

[Mr 9finger]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

I've used both on several occasions and they'll both get the job done. It comes down to pretty much looks out of those 2. If I had to choose, I'd go for the Kluson tuners. I like the look and how they string up as opposed to modern tuners. More so on a strat than anything else.

 

[theodie]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

I've used both on several occasions and they'll both get the job done. It comes down to pretty much looks out of those 2. If I had to choose, I'd go for the Kluson tuners. I like the look and how they string up as opposed to modern tuners. More so on a strat than anything else.

Yeah, Klusons kick alot of ass! Best tuner bang for the buck IMO! I love how they string up too!

 

[devilfish]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

hey,

thanks. do you have any idea about sizes the holes in the headstock have to be?

also, i know the grover ones have a csrew hole obviously msrked but what about the kluson ones? do they have a csrew hole at all?

alos, could i change the 'tops' of the kluson ones at a later date if i wanted to?

thanks

 

[Mr 9finger]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

Klusons often need a smaller hole. Don't let that stop you though, they do make adaptor bushings to fit vintage style tuners into a modern sized hole. As for mounting them. If you look at the pic, you'll see 2 notched edges on each side. That's where the mounting screw goes.

 

[Mr 9finger]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

Just as a side note. Gotoh is now making Kluson style tuners that have graduated posts IIRC staggered.

 

[devilfish]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

hi,

can i have a link to those bushing things?

ok i ahve no issues about the mounting screws. so i jsut need some info on installing them/the bushing s and wether i cna change the tops of them if i wish to in the future?

cheers

 

[devilfish]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

what are ''graduated posts IIRC staggered''?

thanks

 

[Mr 9finger]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

http://store.guitarfetish.com/vitucobu.html

staggered means they go from tall to short minimizing the need for string trees.

 

[JB_From_Hell]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

It simulates an angled headstock.

 

[devilfish]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

hi,

if you look on this website:

http://www.axesrus.com/axemachine.htm

which of the items do i actually need? ive looked and they look like the right things but imnot quite sure myself.

would you go with the kluson over the grover then out or sheer quality? im jsut after a cheap-ish set of tuners that i can use (not botherd that i need to use string trees)and i just want to stay in tune haha.

i was jsut looking at them both as they are reputable makes.

 

[Mr 9finger]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

Well, here's the thing bro. You're going to be using a non locking bridge. So QUALITY tuners and a properly cut nut are paramount to tuning stability. Cheap tuners have a tendency to have gearing that slips throwing you out of tune. It's my personal preference to use Klusons any time I can. Any good brand of tuners will work.

I also can't tell you what size bushing adapters you need. I don't know the hole size on your neck or the diameter of the posts on the tuners you'll be getting.

 

[devilfish]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

ok thanks for all the help. so jsut over quality of build and use, you reccomend klusons over grover?

providing i can rig them up to fit...is there anytihng esle i need to know when installing/using klusons vintage style tuners? thanks

 

[devilfish]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

ok thanks for all the help. so jsut over quality of build and use, you reccomend klusons over grover?

providing i can rig them up to fit...is there anytihng esle i need to know when installing/using klusons vintage style tuners? thanks

 

[LunaticFringe]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

I've been thinking about getting new tuners too. What's good for an '07 Les Paul Studio? My main question is, can I get klusons, gotoh, or grover tuners with the same plastic gibson shape? I love the look of that shape, but it would be nice if I could get a solid white one instead of green tinged.

 

[devilfish]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

is there anything else i need to know about installing/using kluson at all?

thanks

 

[devilfish]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

is there anything else i need to know about installing/using kluson at all?

thanks

 

[Mr 9finger]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

is there anything else i need to know about installing/using kluson at all?

thanks

You should be all set bro! Good luck!

 

[devilfish]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

ok great, ive ordered a set of klusons and a set of adaptrer bushing came to £24 altogether (not bad for lefty hardware)

do i literally just pop them in and screw them down?

 

[Mr 9finger]

Re: quality tuners/machine heads...advice please

ok great, ive ordered a set of klusons and a set of adaptrer bushing came to £24 altogether (not bad for lefty hardware)

do i literally just pop them in and screw them down?

That's pretty much the jist of it!