Question of curiousity !

[Grungy_AJ]

Why are ValveState Amps cheaper then Solid State and Tube Amps, i mean i thought the Valvestate is new cutting edge technology, so why cheaper, i don't get it ?

I tried finding information on it over the internet but i found 0nothing, so here i am, asking you guys all this ! :smokin:

 

[JLagoon]

Re: Question of curiousity !

I think that it's just an old model.

 

[metal]

Re: Question of curiousity !

valvestate its just an old marshall line they are solid state amps!

 

[fretburner]

Re: Question of curiousity !

the AVTs now have a tube preamp.

 

[Brow]

Re: Question of curiousity !

I thought the Marshall Valvestate amps had a valve in the pre-amp? Even the 1st models from early/mid 90s?

 

[Grungy_AJ]

Re: Question of curiousity !

Yeah i don't know, i thought so too but wouldn't that increase the price rather than decrease it ?

 

[Foeburner]

Re: Question of curiousity !

I think those things are cheap 'cause nobody wants em

 

[Grungy_AJ]

Re: Question of curiousity !

see now that makes sense, so in other words, they Suck, good to know now

 

[FenderStratRock3]

Re: Question of curiousity !

the AVTs now have a tube preamp.

Marketing gimmick. It's true that they have a tube in the preamp, but it really doesn't do much. The amps aren't very good.

 

[ankalar]

Re: Question of curiousity !

A major part of cutting edge technology is reduction of manufacturing costs. This is one of the ideas behind solid state; it's cheaper to build.

 

[muttonchopsrule]

Re: Question of curiousity !

those original valvestate models from the 90's actually aren't that bad IMO, for what they are. and if they're cheaper than the solid state models, then more power to 'em. i think they sound a lot better than the current AVT models, and way better than the current solid state MG line. an old friend of mine had the 2x12 valvestate combo (not sure of the power rating) and it could keep up with a lound drummer and still sound decent at that volume.

but of course it still won't match up to an all-tube amp when it comes to good tone at loud volumes.

 

[Davey]

Re: Question of curiousity !

the valves are just a marketing gimmick... they only replace the clipping diode and allow for a little smoother distortion, but thats it

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Question of curiousity !

All I know is I've seen a few bands using Valvestates, and they have the worst tone of the night.

For similar money, you'd be better off buying a Vox Valvetronix head, and putting it on a high quality cab.

 

[Rich_T]

Re: Question of curiousity !

those original valvestate models from the 90's actually aren't that bad IMO, for what they are. and if they're cheaper than the solid state models, then more power to 'em. i think they sound a lot better than the current AVT models, and way better than the current solid state MG line. an old friend of mine had the 2x12 valvestate combo (not sure of the power rating) and it could keep up with a lound drummer and still sound decent at that volume.

but of course it still won't match up to an all-tube amp when it comes to good tone at loud volumes.

+1,those originals are pretty decent amps in my experience.

 

[metalspider]

Re: Question of curiousity !

some of the olde valvestate amps had a tube in the preamp.i use to own a vs102r sounded pretty good but still a tube amp is alot better,at any volume.

 

[Grungy_AJ]

Re: Question of curiousity !

Yeah, i just looked at some off ebay and there were around the price of like 300 US dollars for 150watts or something, that made me really curious that why are they so cheap, but now it makes sense... Thanks !

 

[Kamanda~SD]

Re: Question of curiousity !

The new "AVTX's" are cheaper because they are no longer made in England. Only all tube marshalls are made in England now. I have an AVT and I love it actually! Although I am looking to upgrade in the near future.

 

[Brow]

Re: Question of curiousity !

My 1st amp was a mid/early 90s Marshall Valvestate 8040 1x12 40w combo. It didn't sound all that bad if I remember correctly. From memory, it sounded better than the current Valvestate/AVT amps, and ANYTHING sounds better than the current MG series amp imo