Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

[tc]

http://www.rasmusguitars.com/

Looks good I guess. Good hardware and pickups are always something nice in an import. Can't help but think of The Rasmus the band though.

 

[Bludave]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

I don't know what it is about Sur guitars, but they feel odd in my hands

 

[JordanM82]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

saayyyyy whhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttt?

I have played 2 or 3 Suhr's and loved every one of them... I would be interested in seeing how one of these plays and sounds.

 

[BloodRose]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

interesting! maybe they will end up being pretty good like the PRS SEs.. Thanks for sharing!

Ive never been able to play a real Suhr..

 

[Zerberus]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

I disagree with the business move as I´ve seen what releasing cheaper side offerings often does to a brand, and I´m not sure John can avoid that happening.

The description would lead me to believe they´re likely using the Fujigen plant in Japan or Samick´s facilities in Korea, both excellent choices well capable of producing instruments worth >1000$ US. But when it gets out (and in today´s day an age, it will which exact plant they´re using, that could lead to other lower end brands from the same plant being "discovered" by people sucking sales away from Suhr´s budget offerings as opposed to generating them.

That off to the side, the number of companies producing strats (and superstrats) in that price segment is immense. You have Ibanez 500 series (or whatever they´re called these days) and low end Prestige lines, Jackson, ESP /LTD, Washburn, Charvel, and even Fender themselves, just to name the bigger players. ANd many of these offerings can boast Made in USA which for better or worse carries a certain stigma that is a selling point for many. Even though they may be a bit lower in quality, but conversely many are also less expensive.

Just my thoughts, I´m just not sure I really see a viable market at that price point. But I wish John best of luck in proving me wrong :beerchug:

 

[tone?]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

I have to totally agree with Zerb and add a few points.

I have seen moves like this as well and dont think that most of them are good. Especially from a company like Suhr.
See, Suhr is a small company and that is what their initial marketing advertised them as. And this is what people imagine when buying one.

When people think Suhr they think that John is inspecting ALL the guitars that are going out and they are literally being 'pampered' before leaving to customers.
It puts a 'face' behind the instruments.
while this is probably STILL what is going to happen it makes me think that it gives Suhr more of a business look and will he have 'time' to pay attention to his hand made 'babies' in the US. or will he have to spend countless hours being a business man??

Tom Anderson recently went through something like this I think and was in the dilemma of being a business man or doing what he loves most, which is building guitars. I respect both although I prefer the latter. But this 'image' will go through peoples heads.

Personally I dont believe in selling both Lamborghini and Hyndai under the same roof.
There are too many manufacturers out there that are doing the low-end deal with TONS of cash for advertising. You really sure you want to invade their territory??

 

[ex-250]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

well thats....incredibly boring looking. call me when they start making a doubleneck flying V

 

[vinterland]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

Suhrs are special guitars and they already have their more affordable line in the S series and M2 series so why the need to part out to overseas labor!?!?!? Oh I know so some 16 year old can afford it. I've been following it since announced at NAMM and the whole thing just doesn't feel right.

 

[KeeperOS]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

I believe that is why he's stressing out that even though they'll be imports they'll be in extremely limited quantities.

Basically they wanted to sell a cheaper alternative to their custom guitars and the Pro line just wasn't cheap enough.

It'll be the "entry level" Suhr but I don't expect even for a SECOND that it'll cost any less than a grand!

Basically what I'm suspecting is that they're planning for the Rasmus line to eventually REPLACE the Pro line (i.e. they'll have the import production line and the USA custom guitars).
So the guitars coming out of the Suhr factory will be more or less the same but the guitars actually BUILT in the Suhr factory will be significantly fewer!

 

[Ayrton]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

This will be a huge success for Suhr, you watch. These guitars will be every bit of an ESP, Ibanez or any other premium far east guitar, but for less money.

From John says, the wood is cut in the east, and the guitars are assembled in his shop. You get the same hardware, and finishing as the custom shop.

 

[misterwhizzy]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

The link says $1300+. I don't see how that fits into the "affordable" or "entry-level" bracket. I paid less than that for my Gibson. And I really have to agree with Ex-250. I don't see anything terribly exciting about it. Obviously I haven't played one, but it doesn't knock my socks off the way a PRS does.

 

[ImmortalSix]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

Wow - those things are aggressively ugly.

They look like the $199 Jackson JS20 Dinkys.

 

[fatigueofheart]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

This will be a huge success for Suhr, you watch. These guitars will be every bit of an ESP, Ibanez or any other premium far east guitar, but for less money.

From John says, the wood is cut in the east, and the guitars are assembled in his shop. You get the same hardware, and finishing as the custom shop.

No, it's not the same thing in terms of quality as a real Suhr. The finishing, fretwork, hardware mounting, electronics, is all done in Asia. The only thing is, the neck is plekked. It's not about the quality of the parts but rather how much love and care is put into putting one together. It's in the attention of details that set real Suhrs, PRS, etc. from their overseas counterpart. With that said, if you don't mind the quality of the PRS SE and the LTDs, you should be fine. But for, $1000+ USD, I rather get an american guitar be it fender or otherwise.

 

[sosomething]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

I hated on these things plenty last month when this story broke on TGP.

I won't revisit it all here - just a quick recap:

I know they'll be real nice guitars.

I don't expect them to sell many of them for a whole bunch of reasons.

 

[Empty Pockets]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

for around a thousand bucks i can think of about three dozen really good quality Strat-copies.

What makes this one special?

 

[sosomething]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

for around a thousand bucks i can think of about three dozen really good quality Strat-copies.

What makes this one special?

According to Suhr:

it's the fact that the wood and certain elements of the hardware and pickups come from the US. They're then assembled in South KoChinistan by skilled guitar people who actually live in the factory all week long and then shipped back to the US for a set-up by Suhr employees.


According to practical reality:

nothin

 

[BloodRose]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

according to suhr:

It's the fact that the wood and certain elements of the hardware and pickups come from the us. They're then assembled in south kochinistan by skilled guitar people who actually live in the factory all week long and then shipped back to the us for a set-up by suhr employees.


According to practical reality:

Nothin

lmao!!!!

 

[Ayrton]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

No, it's not the same thing in terms of quality as a real Suhr. The finishing, fretwork, hardware mounting, electronics, is all done in Asia. The only thing is, the neck is plekked.

I did not say they were the same as the custom shop, but what John personally told me, and what is on the website says the guitars will have final assembly in the Suhr shop.

The guitars are even stamped "Assembled in the USA".

MAP pricing will be under $1000 as well. I think that is a deal compared to what you get from several eastern manufactures.

 

[jmh151]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

For the same price, you can get a Charvel Pro Mod, get it Plekked and Setup yourself, and you have an american made guitar.

 

[richard parker]

Re: Rasmus guitars by John Suhr.

I can't stand this attitude of 'We're doing you a favour by setting up this overseas facility so that you can have one of our wonderful instruments for only $1400'. You're doing what all major manufacturers do - you're trying to make more money. They're certainly not very exciting to look at. I'm not a great fan of strat type guitars but if I was looking for one I'd much rather have one of the new Charvels - they look sweet. These things are ugly bugs.