Rediscovering the Strat

Robbiedbee

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Hey all.

Today, I felt like I had found a complete new side to my Strat: the neck/middle position. I always knew it was there, but to me it just sounded, meh. At one time, I'd use only the neck and bridge+middle positions, but now, I can happily say that I love all 5 positions on your average Fender Stratocaster. Last week, I only really discovered the middle pickup for the first time, and I used it for both rhythm and lead playing. It kinda has a hollow, empty, rounded sound. Hollow and empty don't sound like positive words to describe a tone, but what I have in mind is knocking on a hollowed out piece of wood. It feels so alive.

So I'm playing today, and I just realised how awesome that neck+middle position sounds. You can play single note lead lines, and they sound great, but it really sounds good with stuff like double stops, because thats one it really starts to quack and twang at you.

To really get to know the guitar, what I did was set all my amps EQ levels to neutral, gain neutral, and the slightest smattering of reverb. I listened to each position, playing the same things on each, and then playing with the tone controls, something which I rarely do. Then, start playing with the EQ settings. I find I compensate for changes in pickup with it. I have found that when I am using the neck pickup on my own, I have bass set to neutral, mids at about 3 o clock, and treble on full, compensating for the loss in treble that comes with the neck pickup.

Similarly, when playing with the bridge pickup, I take the treble down to maybe 10 o clock. I know its probably not clever to set your EQ against the characteristics of each pickup, but neck pickup sounds with full treble sound really powerful, yet so smooth. Similarly, the bridge pickup with the trebles off sound subtle, yet still having that kind of force that a rhythm tone needs.

Thanks for reading.
 
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Most of the blues stuff we do(SRV,ZZ Top)etc...I use the neck and or the neck/middle positions with a clean or slightly overdriven Tube Screamer tone..
 
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I have to say that I spend about 80% of my time in neck+middle or bridge+middle when I'm playing my Strat. I need to spend more time playing in just the middle position.

Glad you're (re-)discovering that pickup combination. It's sweeeeeeet.

- Keith
 
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I use the neck and mid pickup most of the time. I seldom use the bridge pickup. I think it is a little too bright and too hot. I play mostly blues, classic rock and standards with my Strat.
 
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The 1st, 2nd & 4th selector positions have always been my favorite on Strats.
 
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I used to have no use for the middle or 'tweener positions, but that has changed dramatically over the past year. I really like the middle for mildly crunchy rhythm and all kinds of lead work. With the tone rolled off and some gain kicked in, the middle pickup yields a very cool fixed-wah tone. The 2/4 positions sound good for clean rhythm and laid back lead, but they also are great with heavier OD. I like the bridge for bright and clean rhythm, and it sounds great with my BB Preamp for lead. And then there's the neck pickup, which is my favorite neck tone of any pickup style.
 
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There isn't anything I don't like about a Strat............ Flat out my favorite guitar and your right all 5 pickup settings are great!
 
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Last weekend I took the DiMarzio FS-1 & Blue Velvets out of my MIJ 62 RI Strat and replaced them with the stock neck and middle pickups plus a Twang Banger.

Consequently I too am now rediscovering the Strat!

The Jap pups sound just like SSL-1s to me - bright, clear, snappy vintage Strat tone. The Twang Banger is great - bright without being ice-picky, it's full in the mids, nice and punchy, and (like a Tele bridge pup) totally usable across the range of the tone control. And there's plenty of quack in the bridge/middle position. I have it wired so the first tone control works on neck and middle pups, and the second tone control works on the bridge pup. That way I can take some treble off the bridge but leave the neck and middle wide open.

I think I'm even getting to the point where I'm not trying to make it sound like a Les Paul. :chairfall
 
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Hss strats are great :D

That they are, but SSS Strats are awesome too. That's why I have one of each ;)

Simon: I had plans to make my HSS Strat more Les Paul like with a Cool Rails neck, but I couldn't get a hold of one. I realise it's not full on LP, but it gets closer to it. I'd much prefer to have the feel of the Strat and a quasi LP sound than a full on LP.

I confess that LPs are thoroughly awesome, but they just don't work well with me.
 
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Finding new tones in your guitar is always fun... make you love them even more... the neck+middle position is one of my favorites...

Hey all.

Today, I felt like I had found a complete new side to my Strat: the
To really get to know the guitar, what I did was set all my amps EQ levels to neutral, gain neutral, and the slightest smattering of reverb. I listened to each position, playing the same things on each, and then playing with the tone controls, something which I rarely do. Then, start playing with the EQ settings. I find I compensate for changes in pickup with it. I have found that when I am using the neck pickup on my own, I have bass set to neutral, mids at about 3 o clock, and treble on full, compensating for the loss in treble that comes with the neck pickup.

Similarly, when playing with the bridge pickup, I take the treble down to maybe 10 o clock. I know its probably not clever to set your EQ against the characteristics of each pickup, but neck pickup sounds with full treble sound really powerful, yet so smooth. Similarly, the bridge pickup with the trebles off sound subtle, yet still having that kind of force that a rhythm tone needs.

So how do you set your amp when you play with a band/friends? can't change the amp setting in a middle of a song when you switch pups... :)

And setting the amp "against" the characteristics of your pup is not a bad idea IMO... Blackmore and EVH used their bridge pups with the crancked on their Marshalls... I'm all for pumping treble into a bassy amp...
Try using the amp with the bass and middle on more then 6 (out of 10 - or on 2 o'clock plus...) and the treble set on a little less... takes you to Gilmour, Blackmore, Eric Johnoson realms...

That being said... I also like the results most Fender models get with more treble in the amp...

Strats are amazing instruments :dance:
 
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I'm at the other end of the cycle, balancing you out. I'm Thinking of selling my strat after not gigging it for almost two years. And it's probably five years since I used ether of the notch positions apart from hitting them by accident. I got (and still am) really sick of the out of phase strat thing. It's not exactly an underused tone over the last three decades of popular music.

Give me another four years and I'll be gigging only with a strat again. Maybe even using the notch positions.
 
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jazzer, you make a good point.

I tryt to find a happy medium with my EQ (don't we all). I find setting the treble high, so you can have the neck pickup sound all chimey and powerful. I have rewired this Strat now so that the tone control works on the bridge pickup too, so I can just roll the highs off.

This is all still just very experimental, I'll have a lot of work to do yet before I find whats best for what, but the Strat is so full of tones that I'll be able to find a good one come what may. I still feel like I'm in the very early stages of my tone quest. There is a long way to go, but I know I'm gonna have a damn good time along the way.
 
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jazzer, you make a good point.

I tryt to find a happy medium with my EQ (don't we all). I find setting the treble high, so you can have the neck pickup sound all chimey and powerful. I have rewired this Strat now so that the tone control works on the bridge pickup too, so I can just roll the highs off.

This is all still just very experimental, I'll have a lot of work to do yet before I find whats best for what, but the Strat is so full of tones that I'll be able to find a good one come what may. I still feel like I'm in the very early stages of my tone quest. There is a long way to go, but I know I'm gonna have a damn good time along the way.

Like you already know (I can see it in your signature), with Strats and Marshalls you're on a very good track...
I find that on Marshalls the tone controls do have great influence. They always make versatile amps... And with a Strat you can go from Gilmour to Hendrix (and Blackmore, Trower...).
 
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