Remix, 30 years later

Rich_S

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Back in the '80s I was briefly associated with a weird little band from Philly called The YaYas. I wasn't really a member. By the time I "joined" they were in the process of breaking up and going their separate ways, which for a couple members meant transcontinental relocation. Before they split completely, they wanted to document what they had and convinced me to play guitar and engineer a 4-song demo tape. We played one live gig at a rooftop 4th of July party near 2nd & South, and that was that.

A while back, a really nice guy I met on the Intarwebz volunteered to transfer the old 4-track cassette to digital for me. After a lot of procrastinating, resurrecting a laptop I inherited from daughter, building monitor stands, goofing around, and being distracted by "real life", I have finally gotten around to re-mixing the first track, "Monopoly".


https://soundcloud.com/goldtop-pt <== New & Improved Link to Soundcloud.

The songs were originally recorded in 1986 on a Tascam 246 Porta Studio, which was about the biggest, baddest 4-track cassette setup ever made. I mixed the original version of the demo on the 246, using nothing but a pair of Boss DD-2 pedals on the effects buses. Those mixes were lackluster at best, however, when we bounced the tracks to digital (using a very nicely maintained old 246) we found that there was a lot of detail on the multitrack that was lost in the mix. The raw tracks sounded really good, but were of course limited by the format: 2 guitar tracks, bass and drums bounced together, and two vocalists sharing a track.

This is my first shot at mixing anything in the digital domain, using the biggish Dell laptop, though a Focusrite Scarlett 2i4, '80s-vintage Yamaha receiver and a pair of Infinity Primus 160 (ahem) "studio monitors". (Okay, they're just bookshelf speakers, but they're what I had around.) No outboard processing gear, just Reaper and the included assortment of plugins. I thought I was "done" last night, but after blasting it in the car about eight times in a row today, I concluded the mix was too bright, bordering on shrill. So, I spent some more time tonight trying to tame it a bit, with the results you can hear above.

Constructive criticism is welcome, but be gentle with me... this project is near & dear.
 
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not my thing really, that being said...

the production quality is really good. Guitars & vocals sound good. lots of intricate guitar work going on there, and it's a catchy tune. pretty cool man!
 
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Funny(read cool) mix of some Police and B-52's like stuff....

I've been thinking "Television + Pretenders" but... yeah.

I was in my Andy Summers phase, which started in 1980 and ended... well, it hasn't really ended.

And if nothing else, The YaYas were funny.
 
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Remix, 30 years later

Try this:

https://soundcloud.com/goldtop-pt

I was switching to SoundCloud yesterday, but unable to get into SDUGF to change the link.

What's up with the forum? My computer says it's down for an upgrade, but it's coming up on my phone.

???

Speaking of computery stuff that's f'd up, can anybody explain to me why this isn't working?



Or is it? All I get is a grey box that asks me politely to visit SoundCloud if I want to hear the song. Shouldn't I get the orange bargraph player thingie instead? Is something wrong with the BB code, or is my Flash player pooched? (FWIW, my Flash is at the latest revision, but my AGV upgraded itself this week and started doing some things it thinks are helpful, but aren't. Maybe it's interfering with Flash.)

11/24/15 Edit: Oh, look! The SoundCloud embeds work now. I read somewhere that SC switched from Flash to HTML5 without warning anybody. Looks like SDUGF has caught up with them. I'm off to TDPRI to see if it's fixed there, too.
 
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Well, that definitley has the Portastudio sound! Brought back a lot of memories. :) The songwring is cool and everyone played really well!!

Feel free to skip what's below:
Constuctive criticism-wise: all of the elements sound like they are separate sonic blobs, not tied together into a cohesive whole; a bus compressor or room reverb will help glue it all together, especially the drums. Could definitley use some chamber reverb to complete the 80s sound. :) If I were doing the mix, I would have treated the guitars a bit more so they are not so left/right static sounding. True to the original demo, perhaps, but having a modulated reverb panned opposite the guitar would go a long way to making the songs sounding more expansive. The only other thing I noticed is that the songs sound a bit flat, dynamics-wise, and do not move, they just kind of start and stop. Get some automation going to move elements around and work the dynamics of the songs a bit and they will really open up.
 
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This makes me want to pull out my 464...I always loved the way a bass sounded plugged into one of these.
 
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Betcha can't guess what kind of a bass it was. [emoji41]
 
Remix, 30 years later

Ha. Wrong.

Bill was the only bassist I ever heard who got no treble AT ALL out of a freakin' STINGRAY. Who does that?!?

Bill does that. "Frustrating" is a polite word for it, speaking as the engineer.
 
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Wow. I was taking a shot in the dark because I honestly had no idea...but a stingray would have been my last pick haha. Does the guy have felt fingertips?
 
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I don't know what his fingertips were made of, but the dude made me break the cardinal EQ rule, "cut only" big time. Huge bump around 250-300 Hz, just so we can hear what notes he's playing. Otherwise, just woof, woof, woof....
 
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^ Agreed. I always start with subtractive, but if it needs a lift somewhere, it needs a lift!
 
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