Replacing Custom Custom with 59/Custom Hybrid

[Helios]

I'm thinking of replacing the Custom Custom (came stock) in my Hamer Monaco Elite with the 59/Custom.

I'm looking to add some treble, which I believe the 59/custom will do, but how are the mids? The Custom Custom is a mid-range monster, but it has more lower mids that I might typically use (prefer the higher mids). What are the mids on the 59/custom like?

 

[Mincer]

Re: Replacing Custom Custom with 59/Custom Hybrid

They are actually more scooped. It is voiced like a PAF, like a 59 is, and a Custom is, individually. It isn't super scooped, like a Custom 5, but *way* more than a CC. If you are looking to get rid of some mid congestion, and open the guitar voice up a bit more, it is a good upgrade. It has a good combination of power with a more vintage voice.

 

[Masta' C]

Re: Replacing Custom Custom with 59/Custom Hybrid

Try a UOA5 magnet in your Custom Custom. Sounds like exactly what you need.

I agree that the Custom Custom and 59/Custom hybrid are two very different sounds. Personally, I think a simple mag swap ($5 to buy and 5 minutes to do) is a better solution here than replacing the pickup.

 

[GilmourD]

Re: Replacing Custom Custom with 59/Custom Hybrid

They are actually more scooped. It is voiced like a PAF, like a 59 is, and a Custom is, individually. It isn't super scooped, like a Custom 5, but *way* more than a CC. If you are looking to get rid of some mid congestion, and open the guitar voice up a bit more, it is a good upgrade. It has a good combination of power with a more vintage voice.

In my orange Strat, which has an alder body and a Floyd Rose, I think the mids are pretty present.

This was recorded through an AxeFX II set up for a Plexi into a 4x12 with G12T-75s pushed by a Tube Screamer.

 

[Helios]

Re: Replacing Custom Custom with 59/Custom Hybrid

I'm surprised to hear that the 59/Custom is that scooped. Ultimately looking to keep the midrange, and add the treble, which would be the ultimate tone for me. Are you suggesting the UOA5 will give me both the midrange and treble? If so, I'm likely sold on going that route.

The tone chart on the duncan site has both midrange and treble pretty high for the 59/custom. The sound clip above seems to have a good amount of midrange, so a bit surprising if it's still considered pretty scooped.

 

[51501984]

Re: Replacing Custom Custom with 59/Custom Hybrid

I'm surprised to hear that the 59/Custom is that scooped. Ultimately looking to keep the midrange, and add the treble, which would be the ultimate tone for me. Are you suggesting the UOA5 will give me both the midrange and treble? If so, I'm likely sold on going that route.

The tone chart on the duncan site has both midrange and treble pretty high for the 59/custom. The sound clip above seems to have a good amount of midrange, so a bit surprising if it's still considered pretty scooped.

I have a 59/Custom in a mahogany Super Strat , I don`t find it scooped at all . It`s pretty balanced to my ears

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Replacing Custom Custom with 59/Custom Hybrid

Definitely buy an unoriented roughcast A5.
I thought the same as you about the CC. I used C5's for quite awhile, and once I went to the more mellowed unoriented A5, I found a hot A5 vintage toned pickup that's pretty much perfect. I also really like the C/59 because it's got a nice growly bwang, but it hums slightly more than a matched coil humbucker. Perfect in an HSS strat IMO. The one I own was one of the first made by Bach2Rock, who gave Duncan the idea.

One thing I found is that Seymour stopped at 14.4K because once you go past that, it starts to get pushed and muddy. Gibson knows that too, which is why the 498T is 14.4K.

 

[Lampy H]

Re: Replacing Custom Custom with 59/Custom Hybrid

I have a 59/Custom in a mahogany Super Strat , I don`t find it scooped at all . It`s pretty balanced to my ears

I feel the same way. While there's no significant boost in midrange, the coil mismatch does open it up in a unique way in my opinion.

 

[elelpe]

Re: Replacing Custom Custom with 59/Custom Hybrid

The one I own was one of the first made by Bach2Rock, who gave Duncan the idea.

And he settled with A2 in his '59/Custom hybrid, IIRC. So he got treble from mistmatched coils and mid from A2 mag.