replacing humbucker pole pieces with single coil magnet poles?
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LtKojak
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Re: replacing humbucker pole pieces with single coil magnet poles?
In theory yes... but WHY would you wanna do that to in the first place..?
Are you off your meds again...?
In theory yes... but WHY would you wanna do that to in the first place..?
Are you off your meds again...?
zenmindbeginner
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Re: replacing humbucker pole pieces with single coil magnet poles?
Yep, the bar magnet would have to be removed unless you're an amateur Tesla.
I'm also pretty sure you'd have to rewind the whole thing... I'd be interested in a humbucker with actual fiber flatwork underneath.
Yep, the bar magnet would have to be removed unless you're an amateur Tesla.
I'm also pretty sure you'd have to rewind the whole thing... I'd be interested in a humbucker with actual fiber flatwork underneath.
GoldenVulture
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Re: replacing humbucker pole pieces with single coil magnet poles?
Yes.
Yes.
Why not ?In theory yes... but WHY would you wanna do that to in the first place..?
Are you off your meds again...?
GoldenVulture
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Re: replacing humbucker pole pieces with single coil magnet poles?
Here's a Hybrid I put together. I Dimarzio Super Distortion coli with Neodymium magnets and 1 Gibson coil with FeO magnets.
So that's two different coils and two different magnet types.
Here's a Hybrid I put together. I Dimarzio Super Distortion coli with Neodymium magnets and 1 Gibson coil with FeO magnets.
So that's two different coils and two different magnet types.
zenmindbeginner
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Re: replacing humbucker pole pieces with single coil magnet poles?
So what's the sound like?
Here's a Hybrid I put together. I Dimarzio Super Distortion coli with Neodymium magnets and 1 Gibson coil with FeO magnets.
So that's two different coils and two different magnet types.
So what's the sound like?
King IzzO)))
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GoldenVulture
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Re: replacing humbucker pole pieces with single coil magnet poles?
Here's a rough clip, part of the collaboration track that died in it's tracks.
- http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=11516551&q=hi&newref=1 - i need to do a more extensive clip of it.
Here's a rough clip, part of the collaboration track that died in it's tracks.
- http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=11516551&q=hi&newref=1 - i need to do a more extensive clip of it.
Re: replacing humbucker pole pieces with single coil magnet poles?
I can suggest a good reason to try this:
The old Hamer USA single coil-sized pickups made by Dimarzio were essentially made with the slug coil of a humbucker and magnetized slugs. They typically measure around 6.75k in the 80s guitars. They sound like a medium hot, well-balanced single coil - bright to chimey, with more low end than a normal single coil , and they can keep up with full size humbuckers really well. They have almost no string pull - I have two of them and a Custom 5 in a strat, and getting the two singles to balance with the C5 was no problem.
If you have a good slug coil from an otherwise broken pickup, give a set of magnetized slugs a try. You may give up on Fender-style pickups all together.
I can suggest a good reason to try this:
The old Hamer USA single coil-sized pickups made by Dimarzio were essentially made with the slug coil of a humbucker and magnetized slugs. They typically measure around 6.75k in the 80s guitars. They sound like a medium hot, well-balanced single coil - bright to chimey, with more low end than a normal single coil , and they can keep up with full size humbuckers really well. They have almost no string pull - I have two of them and a Custom 5 in a strat, and getting the two singles to balance with the C5 was no problem.
If you have a good slug coil from an otherwise broken pickup, give a set of magnetized slugs a try. You may give up on Fender-style pickups all together.
Perfect Solution...
Perfect Solution...
For anyone monitoring this thread, you might be interested in knowing there is someone—a boutique getting a lot of well-deserved attention these days—building exactly the pickups being discussed here, along with some other Humbucker and noiseless single coil pickup variations worth looking into. The one you'd want to check out, the "Magnet-in-Coil" Humbuckers, are called Type II Humbuckers, and they're just flat out beautiful. Think of something along the line of a noiseless, more powerful and chimey P90, and you're pretty close. What I'm liking is the tonal range of these pickups. When it comes to the single-coil and humbucker debate, I've always presented the argument that I can make a Strat sound like a Les Paul, but a Les Paul will never sound like a Strat. I'm rethinking that now. I have these Type II Humbuckers in my '74 Les Paul and they get amazing Strat-like harmonics at one end of their tonal spectrum, with thick, robust Humbucker tones at the other, so I'm not able to back that argument up so much anymore. With some creative switching, my Les Paul has become the most versatile guitar in my studio.
Check them out at the MV Guitars & Pickups website, at this link: http://www.mvguitars.com/Humbucker-Pickups.html. You'll be glad you did.
Cayce
Perfect Solution...
For anyone monitoring this thread, you might be interested in knowing there is someone—a boutique getting a lot of well-deserved attention these days—building exactly the pickups being discussed here, along with some other Humbucker and noiseless single coil pickup variations worth looking into. The one you'd want to check out, the "Magnet-in-Coil" Humbuckers, are called Type II Humbuckers, and they're just flat out beautiful. Think of something along the line of a noiseless, more powerful and chimey P90, and you're pretty close. What I'm liking is the tonal range of these pickups. When it comes to the single-coil and humbucker debate, I've always presented the argument that I can make a Strat sound like a Les Paul, but a Les Paul will never sound like a Strat. I'm rethinking that now. I have these Type II Humbuckers in my '74 Les Paul and they get amazing Strat-like harmonics at one end of their tonal spectrum, with thick, robust Humbucker tones at the other, so I'm not able to back that argument up so much anymore. With some creative switching, my Les Paul has become the most versatile guitar in my studio.
Check them out at the MV Guitars & Pickups website, at this link: http://www.mvguitars.com/Humbucker-Pickups.html. You'll be glad you did.
Cayce
MacBradley
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Re: Perfect Solution...
Re: Perfect Solution...
I just finished building my first humbucker last night and it uses threaded A5 rods instead of a bar magnet touching steel poles/screws. I haven't gotten a chance to play on it more than a few minutes yet, but it should be fun experimenting with this philosophy. I'm very surprised we haven't seen more pickups similar the the Stag Mags or Fender Wide Range humbuckers.
Re: Perfect Solution...
I just finished building my first humbucker last night and it uses threaded A5 rods instead of a bar magnet touching steel poles/screws. I haven't gotten a chance to play on it more than a few minutes yet, but it should be fun experimenting with this philosophy. I'm very surprised we haven't seen more pickups similar the the Stag Mags or Fender Wide Range humbuckers.
MacBradley
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Re: replacing humbucker pole pieces with single coil magnet poles?
The Stag Mag has no bar magnet under it. It sounds like the OP was wanting to leave the bar magnets.
The Stag Mag has no bar magnet under it. It sounds like the OP was wanting to leave the bar magnets.
ibis
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Re: replacing humbucker pole pieces with single coil magnet poles?
Check out the S-Bucker at Catswhiskers pickups. It is interesting in that it has a deeper coil, with alnico slugs, for single coil only use. That coil is then tapped to balance with a lesser slug coil when in HB mode so the output of single coil mode and HB mode matches better than a straight forward tapped HB.
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Check out the S-Bucker at Catswhiskers pickups. It is interesting in that it has a deeper coil, with alnico slugs, for single coil only use. That coil is then tapped to balance with a lesser slug coil when in HB mode so the output of single coil mode and HB mode matches better than a straight forward tapped HB.
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posite63
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Re: replacing humbucker pole pieces with single coil magnet poles?
Gonna necro bump this. The debate above about leaving the bar mag in place was assuming the replacement poles were also magnetized, right?
But what if the pole pieces were replaced with unmagnetized alnico rods (with the bar mag in it's usual place, obviously)? I've heard that the material inside the coil actually has more affect on the tone than a mag below the coil. Is that true? If so, I'd have to imagine alnico rods would make quite a difference in sound. What say ye?
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Gonna necro bump this. The debate above about leaving the bar mag in place was assuming the replacement poles were also magnetized, right?
But what if the pole pieces were replaced with unmagnetized alnico rods (with the bar mag in it's usual place, obviously)? I've heard that the material inside the coil actually has more affect on the tone than a mag below the coil. Is that true? If so, I'd have to imagine alnico rods would make quite a difference in sound. What say ye?
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