Review: Egnater SW-45

Agileguy_101

Master of his Domain
So I picked up a new amp a few weeks ago, but I never got around to doing a write up on it. For those that will immediately ask for clips, I don't have any yet, but I do hope to have some up soon. Maybe I can get around to it next weekend. Anyway, on to talking about the amp:

This thing is awesome. I mean, incredibly awesome. I once had a Dr. Z SR. 65 for a few months, which is to my understanding a souped up, tube rectified 800 clone, and for a long time that was my benchmark for high gain Marshall tones. Well I am pleased to report that between the Plexi and 800 channels, this has become my new benchmark for Marshall tone.

For those not in the know about this amp, it's a US made Egnater (at the time of this review, the ONLY US made Egnater) aimed at capturing a wide gamut of Marshall tones. The story is that Sweetwater had Bruce Egnater teach one of his amp building seminars at a Sweetwater store and they were so impressed with the modded 800 type amps that Bruce was teaching people to build that he was commissioned to make an amp exclusively for Sweetwater. This amp incorporates much of what Bruce teaches in his classes - namely an incredible JCM800 amp - but also adds a vintage channel in the vein of a late 60's Plexi. Unfortunately, the channels are not footswitchable, but I really don't mind. Bruce says that keeping them separate makes for better tone, and who am I to argue? The amp sounds fantastic on both channels. It's not that bad if you just treat the amp as if it is two separate amps in one head. And honestly, each channel sounds so damn fantastic that I would be more than willing to buy them as separate amps, finances permitting.

While the SW-45 may not seem at first to be lavishly appointed, under its simple control panel you are treated to a level of versatility that I have rarely experienced in a single channel amp. You have the standard Marshall controls - a 3 band tone stack, gain and master volume, and a presence control. But, and this is in my opinion the most important part of the amp, you have a density control. But more on that later. I have found all of the tone controls to be quite powerful in helping the user dial in a sound that will fit any guitar, cabinet, or tonal goal within the Marshall range.

Let's start with the vintage (Plexi-voiced) channel. I was very surprised by this channel, mostly by the cleans. The Marshalls I've played in the past have never had as detailed cleans as this amp - they are quite Fender-esque in their lushness. I think part of this is due to the density control, which enables you to dial in more fatness than one would typically find in a Marshall style amp. The density control is the key to the versatility of this channel - normal marshall cleans are in there with the density around 10 o clock, but as you push it to around 1 or two the cleans get fuller and more detailed. I don't find the density to be as useful on the dirty tones of this channel, but that's mostly because the dirty tones on this channel are pure plexi crunch and rock, and messing with that forumla is almost sacrilege. With the gain cranked I can roll down my guitar's volume for very nice cleans, dig in a bit for some nice breakup, and pull the volume up to 10 for Zeppelin level awesomeness. I don't have an LP but I can tell that a LP and this channel would be a match in heaven. I just love how many classic tones lurk in this amp - Zep, Van Halen, Bad Company, and so many 70's rock tones are just a power chord away.

I love how well this channel takes pedals - I can use my klon clone to boost an already dirty tone into awesome rock dirty goodness, my marshall in a box pedal to take the cleans up to awesome Marshall crunch. The amp also has an effects loop for the people like me that want to get fancy and run delays, mods, and verbs into it, and it takes them fantastically.

On to what many people consider the main attraction of this amp - the JCM800 channel. I can't say enough great things about this channel, it really is incredible. It's fantastically versatile - it's got a huge range of gain, the tone controls let you go from classic marshall mid grind to more modern scooped drop gain type tones, but not without that unmistakable marshall midrange. In standard or Eb tuning, I can dial in cheesy 80's butt rock tones a la Poison, Ratt, and Warrant all day, and that's with the gain around half. I can dial in a surprising amount of fatness from this channel, due in no small part to the density control. I've used this amp with guitars tuned as low as drop B and it handles the low frequencies with grace. I can see this amp doing great things in a two guitar band with the other guitarist using a more modern amp like a Mesa Rectifier or an Orange Rockerverb.

One thing that impressed both my friends that played this amp the other day and myself is the clarity that the modern channel has. Even with my PRS CE24 (59/C Hybrid bridge and WLH neck) tuned to C standard and the gain around 3 o clock, you could still clearly discern every note within a chord, and I'm not just talking power chords.

For a 50W amp, I'm neither disappointed at the volume/headroom nor overwhelmed by it. It's a perfect compliment to my Bassman, and running them in stereo is even more awesome than you can imagine. I'm definitely a 50 watt kind of guy.

Again, I hope to have some clips up soon, I'm just a bit busy with work and school. I'll shoot for recording some stuff next weekend, but no promises. If you've got any questions, ask away. And before you complain about no pictures, here's one. Ignore the Mesa, I traded it for the aforementioned PRS.

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I agree that it's a great amp. I had my hands on one and decided to go a different route at the last minute, but kept thinking about it for a while after that. Bruce Egnater is a cool dude and you will be surprised just how many big-name, non-Egnater brand amp designs he is behind from what I am to understand. Total respect for Bruce.

Having said that, I'm sorry to have to turn your world upside down, but you have not yet reached the pinnacle in your climb towards the ultimate plexi/JCM tones. There is one amp I recently discovered which just quietly transcends any other plexi/JCM style amp out there. Keep in mind that when you're talking about amps like this, and the SW45, you're talking about modded Marshalls pretty much. There is one clear best when it comes to authentic plexi stuff and that's Metropoulos, but we're not talking about that so let me introduce you to THE ULTIMATE modded Marshall I have ever found:

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http://www.destroyallguitars.com/models/item/304-morris-perplex-d/category_pathway-235

You should be able to find plenty of audio/video samples of it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it's a cruel thing to do. However, it would be selfish of me to keep such a secret to my self. I'm saying that you need to ditch the SW45 because it's a great amp, but the Morris Perplex'd will always be sitting out there shining in all of it's heavenly glory, reminding you that you still have yet to reach the Holy Grail.

Oh yeah, I've got one like it coming in soon so I can fill you in more when it gets here.
 
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Super! Maybe he can work up to that amazing amp!

Yes, exactly! It's good that you got understood it because it shows that I'm getting better at dumbing-down my posts in order to avoid alienating certain forum members. In the true spirit of gear acquisition, we must never be satisfied until we obtain the absolute best. Then we can sell it and settle for what we had before.
 
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Then we can sell it and settle for what we had before.

Hopefully I can skip the first step and go straight to the last one. I really like this amp, and it works for me. I'm sure the Morris is a fantastic amp, but I have no gas for anything in the Marshall vein anymore. If I get another amp it will be a Mesa or a Vox. Eventually I'll have both and then I won't need any more amps.

I'll still buy more of course, but I won't NEED any more.
 
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Yes, exactly! It's good that you got understood it because it shows that I'm getting better at dumbing-down my posts in order to avoid alienating certain forum members. In the true spirit of gear acquisition, we must never be satisfied until we obtain the absolute best. Then we can sell it and settle for what we had before.

I'm totally with you, but the amps from Hovercraft are the pinnacle of "Tone" in my book. Everybody has a Marshall, so why not do something different?

(Egnater makes some awesome stuff, btw)
 
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Hopefully I can skip the first step and go straight to the last one. I really like this amp, and it works for me. I'm sure the Morris is a fantastic amp, but I have no gas for anything in the Marshall vein anymore. If I get another amp it will be a Mesa or a Vox. Eventually I'll have both and then I won't need any more amps.

I'll still buy more of course, but I won't NEED any more.

Yeah, I was just kidding about the whole tone quest thing, but the Morris is absolutely incredible. Hey, how is the master volume? Do the controls work like a real plexi so they become less effective as the volume gets loud? I had a plexi and JCM800, and when you would crank them, the EQ's didn't seem to make much difference.
 
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The master is pretty good - it has quite an even taper so getting the right volume isn't difficult at all. It really opens up with the master around 10 o clock. As for the EQ, I can't remember off the top of my head. I'll be using the amp tomorrow at a jam with some friends so I'll let you know.
 
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Very nice! I was waiting for this review of yours. All I can say is wow, I have ultimate gas now. I never knew an amp like this would exist, and honestly this is all I want in an amp. I really wish it was footswitchable tho, that would make it ideal for a gig environment.

Question tho, what does the jcm channel sound like with the gain at 2 or so? Is it still distorted?

I sincerely think this will be my next amp. And with sweetwater's 24 month financing plan, it's almost dumb not to.
 
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Finally! Thanks for the review!

How does the JCM800 channel compare to a real Marshall JCM800? I watched a YouTube video of an Egnater Seminar head that sounded killer, but the high-gain tones sounded smoother, more modern-metal voiced. I don't know if it was just so high-gain that it had too much compression (ie gain dimed) or if he had the EQ scooped. IMO, the classic JCM800 has an upper midrange bark that makes the amp very percussive, hence the reason so many thrash bands used them. You can just feel the palm mutes. Does the SW45 have that or is it a more refined, smoothed JCM800?

Also, how does the SW45 JCM800 channel compare to the SRZ65? That's another amp I've looked at (actually the 45/65, which is DrZ's Hiwatt and JCM800 in one).
 
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I've never played a JCM800, but a friend of mine just put one on layaway. I'll be jamming with him in a few weeks, so I'll either update the thread or PM you with my observations then. But as far as that upper midrange bark, yeah the SW-45 has it in spades. You can get (what I imagine are) very accurate JCM800 tones with the gain around 12-1 and the mids past noon. It reminds me a lot of the Slash sig Marshall I played a few months ago at Guitar Center, but noticeably better. The only Marshall I've played that was even remotely close was a Jubilee, and honestly the SW-45 smokes it hands down. But yeah, when I have the gain around half and the mids up, it just oozes classic Marshall recorded tones. I can definitely feel the palm mutes, and if for some reason I can't I can just bring up the density

I can't really compare it to the SRZ-65 as I haven't played that amp in years. But I can say that it makes me as happy as the SRZ-65, and I haven't played a Marshall type since then that does that.
 
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I have a stock 1982 800 2204 and a 50 watt seminar amp. The seminar (sw45) owns my 800. Just better all the way around.
 
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I have a stock 1982 800 2204 and a 50 watt seminar amp. The seminar (sw45) owns my 800. Just better all the way around.

Sounds like my friend that's getting the 800 may be a bit disappointed because I told him he's in for the same basic experience with his 800 compared to my SW-45.
 
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I have a stock 1982 800 2204 and a 50 watt seminar amp. The seminar (sw45) owns my 800. Just better all the way around.

Really? That different? in what ways?

I was really intrigued by the amp when I got the Sweetwater catalog but was wanting some feedback on it. ( now all I need is money)
Thank you for the AWESOME detailed review Agileguy! look forward to hearin how it was at practice! ??

Ubermetaldood, as always, you give me something else to lust after.... thanks..
 
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I'm in serious love right now, I watched the sweetwater demo, sounds amazing
 
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Really? That different? in what ways?

I was really intrigued by the amp when I got the Sweetwater catalog but was wanting some feedback on it. ( now all I need is money)
Thank you for the AWESOME detailed review Agileguy! look forward to hearin how it was at practice! ??

Ubermetaldood, as always, you give me something else to lust after.... thanks..

Then you're going to hate me now because I have a Perplex'd headed my way in 2 weeks straight from Canada. Pics, sound samples, review to follow...
 
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Thank you for the AWESOME detailed review Agileguy! look forward to hearin how it was at practice?
As awesome as ever. I really couldn't ask for more from an amp. As awesome as that Morris amp looks, the SW-45 just suits my approach to amps better. For the record, I've mostly been using it in the plexi channel in stereo with my bassman because I'm not quite playing the type of music that the 800 channel would be best for with other people. I'm going to be jamming with a band in a few weeks where one guitarist has a Soldano Avenger 100 and the other has a 2204/2203 (not sure) coming in. I'll update then with more details. But if you have any questions feel free to ask.
 
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I'm in serious love right now, I watched the sweetwater demo, sounds amazing
That demo was the one that convinced me to buy it. The only thing I regret is not buying it sooner. Buy it and tell me what you think.
 
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