Reviews of Duncan Humbuckers for Metal & Heavy Distortion

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For Vault Purposes, please post your impressions, including what guitars, amps, and artist/styles work best with this pup. Thanks.
 
Re: Reviews of Duncan Humbuckers for Metal & Heavy Distortion

Duncan Distortion :

Yes, a great pickup under high-gain. It has great clarity, doesnt sound muddy at all. But this pickup can also be used with Overdrive and smoother sounds. I use it in my Strat with the band to play PF The Wall tunes, and it fits the bill perfectly. Nice bottom, great harmonics.
 
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The Duncan Distortion is really hard to beat for very agressive hard rock and metal. It has a tight and focused edge that works equally well for chunky rhythm work or searing leads. Through the right amp/rig it can be particularily brutal. Paired with the Distortion neck model it makes for a serious hardcore guitar.

The JB model is another great pickup for hot work. It is not quite as agressive and percussive as the Distortion but it still has more than enough output to drive the front end of any amp well. Think 80s metal, think the JB. It also cleans up very well and is near the top of my list for versatile pickups that can sound huge in a heartbeat.

The Dimebucker is a great pickup with big output and excels at a more modern type of metal tone. The bottom end is somewhat squishy and that makes for exceptional palm muting while the top end screams during lead work. The Dime also has a unique and almost twangy clean tone and sounds great paired with a 59n.
 
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Is the c5 a good pickup for heavy music/alternative in a bright guitar?????????
 
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WHAT ABOUT THE LIVEWIRE HEAVY METAL ACTIVE BUCKER??? Isn't that supposed to be meant for heavy styles?
 
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Distortion: I love mine, but still need to try out a JB. Tons of gain, killer harmonics, sounds killer under heavy (death and thrash metal in my case) distortion. Cleans blow...
 
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Invader:

insane low-end without muffling out. the secret might be Duncan's excess of midrange for this pickup to complement the clipped treble. works best in the bridge & surprisingly good for non-metal tones as well.

guitar: Ibanez S540
amp: Peavey XXL
 
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Distortion: Very articulate, which is great for faster paced metal. Still has that classic 80's style sound and handles modern styles equally as well. Cleans leave much to be desired, but in parallel, can yield some pretty decent cleans.

JB: Very bright, seems to me like it would be "THE 80's metal pickup". High-output and versatile to just about any style.
 
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Hotrails:

I had this in a crappy Ibanez grx 45 made of alder with a maple neck and rosewood fingerboard, I used a 500k volume pot and a 250k tone pot.

This pickup was the most agressive pickup I've ever played (and certainly the loudest). It distorted my amps clean channel when the amp was only at 4. No frequency (as in lows/mids/highs) seemed to overpower the other, it was fairly well balanced, with emphasis on the mids and low mids that didn't drown out the lows and highs. Under distortion, there was NO MUD AT ALL, very very clear sounding pickup. The Hotrails had crunch comprable to that of someone chewing on concrete. Had I been looking to get a sound more extreme than that of any metal band I've ever listened to, I'd have loved the Hotrails. However, the pickup was totally not what I was looking for, it's a great metal/punk pickup, but I'm going for more of a classic rock sound.
 
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distortion:


bright and articulate, pretty hot as well. a bit too much hot for my tastes, but still can get some nice heavy riffin' and some killer leads. not really "my type" of pickup, which i swhy i am selling it.
 
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My main experience is with Duncan 7 string humbuckers. I've tried and owned all of the 7 string models apart from the '59's and the Jazz neck model, so here goes. All opinions are expressed as my own, and may not agree with other peoples assertions, and so should be taken as such. I mainly play extreme metal music, so my opinions are most likely biased towards such a tone as is associated with such music.

7 string Distortion pickups: Not much to add to what everyone else has said, other than it sounds extremely brutal on the low B, which it handles excellently. Very articulate for such a hot pickup, aggressive, hot and excellent for thrash, and most forms of metal music.

The neck model is my favourite neck designated humbucker by Duncan. Compared to other neck models, it's the only neck humbucker which offers a relatively high output. Great for metal soloing, and a great match with a DD or Invader in the bridge.

7 string Invader pickups: My favourite bridge Duncan humbucker. As mentioned previously, extreme amounts of useable low end, and a healthy dose of mids, which give the pickup a characterisic low mid growl. The low B is capable of inducing seismic activity. Plenty of output is available to kick any amp in the bollocks. Also, most people expect this pickup to have no high end cut, which isn't the case. While the high end is less prominent, it is easily sufficient to achieve the searing highs associated with various forms of metal music. Good for most types of metal, especially more extreme forms. Some prefer a less bassy pickup for thrash styles, although I find it fine for such applications. Many people are skeptical about the Invader in lower tunings. I find it works perfectly on the Low B string. While the pickup can be used for clean tones, most people don't like the inherently dark quality, and some volume knob manipulation is required to ensure a fully clean tone.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the neck model. While it retains the character of the bridge model tonally to some extent, with a decent thick tone, it does not pack the punch of it's bridge counterpart, and is not a particularly hot pickup either, and while this is not essentially a bad thing, I find it doesn't suit my tastes.

7 string JB pickup: The first Duncan pickup I owned. Hard to fault for metal applications, as it is capable of producing metal tones of pretty much any description with the right amp. Has a characteristic boost in the upper mids some find unagreeable. Much more useable clean tones in the bridge than the Invader or Distortion models. However, it doesn't possess the aggression found in these pickups.

After buying an Invader, I ended up placing the JB in the neck of my 7 string. While not necessarily reccomended, I find this setup to be most agreeable. The tone is very syrupy, smoothe and yet still packs enough cut and articulation for metal. Great for thick, flowing leads. I should note, I have the pickup backed way off from the strings, especially on the Low B side.

7 string Custom: I just bought one from Zerb, and although I do have it installed in my guitar, I haven't played it as often as I'd like to make a proper assessment of it's capabilities. I'll be putting the Invader back in the bridge shortly, but I am fond of this pickup up to now. Hot enough to drive an amp sufficiently for extreme metal capabilities, with a comparitively balanced eq compared to the other 7 string pickups I've owned. Again, much more useable clean tones than the DD or Invader, yet doesn't quite pack the same aggression.

All pickups played through an Ibanez basswood/maple necked/rosewood fretboard RG 7 string, and through a Laney GH100TI, POD 2.3 and POD XT.
 
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Although I much prefer to search for people asking about the Full Shred ... I contribute.

I've used the Trembucker Full Shred in Alder and Poplar bodied guitars for about 5 years now. It's been run on various different amps and always using 500k volume pots.

I'll try and sum this up easily

Voice: The Full Shred is a very distinct sounding pickup that is very articulate and can easily cut through the mix. Similar to single coil pickups, the articulate nature of the pickup means that string to string picking and runs are clear even under a considerate amount of distortion. Sweep Picking, and Palm Muting are areas where the Full Shred excells. With palm muting, the articulation means that the Full Shred delivers pure "Chunk". Being high output and also having the articulate (you gotta hate this word now) nature of this pickup, I feel it is compressed sounding ... especially clean ... hence why I also use the '59 in the neck.

EQ: The EQ (which I feel is slightly different to voice) is more focused on the upper mids and highs, lows are not boosted that much, but unlike other pickups that I have tried, the bass is extremely tight once you learn to get it out of there.

Common Complaints Some people complain that the Full Shred is harsh, too bright, or doesn't have enough bass ... all of these from my experience can be fixed. The bright and harsh impressions are often from people not re-adjusting their EQ, or the pickup height (important). Generally, taking the time to experiment with these will result in you getting a better feel for the pickup. Not having enough bass ... sometimes I feel the same but I've found some solutions which will be answered in the next section ...

How to get the most from your Full Shred Woods: I prefer it in Poplar ... and I think it'll also be good in Mahognay and other darker woods ... this will help increase the bass responce in the Full Shred. Albeit, Farkus, much to my hestitation over his choice uses it in an Ash guitar and seems to be pleased with the results.

Amps: Closed Backs! Tight Tight Punchy Bass will occur when you mate the right guitar and amp with the Full Shred and a Closed back cab. Once again, play with the EQ and (suprise) the gain settings ...

There's all sorts of things you can do ...

DYK info ... Mr. Betts from the Allman Bros. Band is listed as using the Full Shred in the bridge, and is not a one trick pony, I also use it for Classic Rock, Bluesgrass, Alternative, Blues, Fusion, and other experimental styles of music.
 
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It's all a personal preference really. Hell, I use the Jazz Models 80% of the time and I'm probably about the only person that does use those models in the bridge and neck for heavy rock.
 
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Custom/Custom:

Used in the bridge position of a neck-thru, v-shaped guitar with an original floyd rose trem... using a PODxt.

Not very good under super-distorsion... too nasel and it just can't handle the beef. The lead tone become 'quacky' and with the tone turned down it becomes too muddy. I've tried everything with the EQ, to no avail.

Great for lesser distorted amps though.
 
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JB works here for me. I have it in my Gibson Les Paul custom feeding a Dunlop GCB-95, Boss Flanger, Boss DD3, and finally a Mesa Single Rectifier on top a Mesa Traditional 4x12 cab. Setup here works good for rock/metal, all styles from the 80`s up on to todays modern metal.
 
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****IGN HAILS ALEX.
Man i´m in a amp quest tone.
i must choose from 4 different amps that MIKI reviewed .
MARSHALL JCM 2000 DSL 100 HEAD,
LANEY GH100TI HEAD
PEAVEYS 5150 II AND TRIPLE XXX.
and you have the laney that i want to hear.
can you do a death/black/thrash soundclips and send to me ?
i must hear THE AMP DISTORTION, not the pod distortion .
PLEASE MAN.
do a soundclip to me, in C, D,E . if you do not a guitar tuned in C, d, or E, you can use your 7 strings.
cause i do not have a 7 strings so, it may be a little different sound.

can you do that for me and send to my email?
namy@openline.com.br
HAILS AND THANKS IN ADVANCE
J.P
 
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HOLY CRAPPY MAN
I MUST CONGRATULATE AND GIVE TO YOU ALL TEH KUDOS MAN
UNHOLY WORK ON THAT FS REVIEW.
I´M ALMOST CONVINCED IN BUYING ONE TO PUT IN TEH NECK
I´M JUST WAITING FOR THE DIME59HUM FS NECK TO BE INSTALLED AND I WILL HEAR ITS SOUNDSAMPLE, IF I LIEKD, I´LL BUY IT. NO DOUBT THAT I WILL.
black/death/thrash/fusion metal TONE hails and kudos.
:saeek: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :dance: :dance: :) :) :) :)
J.P


TheProphet said:
Although I much prefer to search for people asking about the Full Shred ... I contribute.

I've used the Trembucker Full Shred in Alder and Poplar bodied guitars for about 5 years now. It's been run on various different amps and always using 500k volume pots.

I'll try and sum this up easily

Voice: The Full Shred is a very distinct sounding pickup that is very articulate and can easily cut through the mix. Similar to single coil pickups, the articulate nature of the pickup means that string to string picking and runs are clear even under a considerate amount of distortion. Sweep Picking, and Palm Muting are areas where the Full Shred excells. With palm muting, the articulation means that the Full Shred delivers pure "Chunk". Being high output and also having the articulate (you gotta hate this word now) nature of this pickup, I feel it is compressed sounding ... especially clean ... hence why I also use the '59 in the neck.

EQ: The EQ (which I feel is slightly different to voice) is more focused on the upper mids and highs, lows are not boosted that much, but unlike other pickups that I have tried, the bass is extremely tight once you learn to get it out of there.

Common Complaints Some people complain that the Full Shred is harsh, too bright, or doesn't have enough bass ... all of these from my experience can be fixed. The bright and harsh impressions are often from people not re-adjusting their EQ, or the pickup height (important). Generally, taking the time to experiment with these will result in you getting a better feel for the pickup. Not having enough bass ... sometimes I feel the same but I've found some solutions which will be answered in the next section ...

How to get the most from your Full Shred Woods: I prefer it in Poplar ... and I think it'll also be good in Mahognay and other darker woods ... this will help increase the bass responce in the Full Shred. Albeit, Farkus, much to my hestitation over his choice uses it in an Ash guitar and seems to be pleased with the results.

Amps: Closed Backs! Tight Tight Punchy Bass will occur when you mate the right guitar and amp with the Full Shred and a Closed back cab. Once again, play with the EQ and (suprise) the gain settings ...

There's all sorts of things you can do ...

DYK info ... Mr. Betts from the Allman Bros. Band is listed as using the Full Shred in the bridge, and is not a one trick pony, I also use it for Classic Rock, Bluesgrass, Alternative, Blues, Fusion, and other experimental styles of music.
 
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The Duncan Distortion (DD) is not trashy at all ... a lot people get turned off by the name Distortion but really a sweet PU. Some people think it's a Boss Metal Zone in a PU - it's not.

It's by far my favorite PU.

The DD produces what a lot of players call a compressed sound which means as you add gain it kinda rolls itself and get thicker and thicker. For example it can sound like Randy Rhoads (what he used) or through the clean channel and very little pedal distortion you get warm fuzz. It's actually quite versatile BUT for a dirty type of sound. The clean is OK but a bit sterile.

It has a bunch of harmonics (like a JB) which I love and a great rhythm. There are more articulate PUs for Vai type stuff (like a DiMarzio Evo) but you will lose the rhythm. The DD is a great mix. Listen to 'Flying High Again' by Rhoads/Ozzy that will give you a great idea. The DD bridge and DD neck work very well together too. The middle position gives you P-90 (heavy early Sabbath tone). It will do Slash very well too. I find it has more bass than the Duncan spec chart shows. It's not dark or bright. If your the only lead guitarist and need both a heavy rhythm and a searing lead tone the DD is it. FYI: The Gibson Iommi is darker and not as compressed.
 
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As far as im concerned, you can get a real thick mid range punch and big bass with pups like the Duncan Distortion but they all get to compressed and small, i like to be able to play normally and then when i get REALLY pissed off or have an extreme surge of sexually driven aggression and play harder and more aggressive, for my sound to reflect that completely and super hot pickups just dont respond like that, they make the wimpiest attack sound big but unfortunently the best attack sound kinda squishy. But im not one of those "low output pickups are the only way to go" people, those dont always cut it either, so what DO i like.......Screamin Demon! PERFECT metal and hard rock pickup! Full Shred is great to, the Custom 5 and Custom are great to. The Demon just always sounds tight, crunchy, aggressive, articulate AND dynamic. I love it!
 
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Maximusgordon 2.0 said:
As far as im concerned, you can get a real thick mid range punch and big bass with pups like the Duncan Distortion but they all get to compressed and small, i like to be able to play normally and then when i get REALLY pissed off or have an extreme surge of sexually driven aggression and play harder and more aggressive, for my sound to reflect that completely and super hot pickups just dont respond like that, they make the wimpiest attack sound big but unfortunently the best attack sound kinda squishy. But im not one of those "low output pickups are the only way to go" people, those dont always cut it either, so what DO i like.......Screamin Demon! PERFECT metal and hard rock pickup! Full Shred is great to, the Custom 5 and Custom are great to. The Demon just always sounds tight, crunchy, aggressive, articulate AND dynamic. I love it!

Good points and those are things I did like about the C-5 and the Rio Grande BBQ. I am afraid of the Custom for the reasons you mentioned, but I am going to probably try one along with a JB. I really have been interested in a Screaming Deamon and PG lately though.
 
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