Rosewood and Telecasters: Stop the Madness!

The Convert

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I've got a budget project that I want to do, and I'm finding it very hard to do what I want to do--which is choose an "authentic" brand for it.

I am looking for an inexpensive telecaster platform, and I'm super disappointed in Squier. They have tons of models and variation for strats, but telecasters are sparse and limited in their offerings. There's no Tele to compare at a Bullet price point. I HATE their super-narrow Affinities (as currently produced)--and yes I tried two before realizing my problems with them are design, not manufacturing.

So after that $200 Affinity level, there's a standard model at $250, that comes in two uncommon 'colors' and only a rosewood fretboard as an option (which isn't really an option, is it). Then you jump up to $400 to the Classic Vibe, which can be a quite nice guitar (I've got one that I love), but really if you want a full sized body and a traditional full maple neck/fretboard $400 is your first option, and even this model is only available in the vintage and butterscotch blondes. There is a deluxe CV model for $450, but again for some reason this is only available in one (quite pretty) burst finish, but only with a rosewood fingerboard.

For the simple and VERY typical combination I want...just a full sized body, 2 or 3 color burst, with a maple neck and fingerboard (clean or deep lacquer), my first real option is a $600 MIM Fender. IMO that's absurd.

And I'm not saying that the world needs to revolve around me, and I know that the offset lovers have even fewer options, but compared to the overflowing options available in the stratocaster line, it's irritating that I can more easily get the feature combination I need from assorted 3rd party Asian guitar makers, when I'm more than happy to give that money to Fender's Asian guitar making division. (And let there be no illusions, the same factories and workers pump our tons of these budget instruments for dozens of companies.)

Ok, rant over. Bring it on.
 
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I was going to say G&L, but I have a feeling Tributes are still a bit above the price point you're looking at? Very good guitars.

Anyway, I'm an offset person as you mention; I don't lament the lack of choice. In all honesty? AVRI and Squier VM are all that's needed; the new "mid-range" lacquers are very nice, but I'd rather spring for US made, considering the lacquers are Mexican yet still priced like US Strats :P Till demand changes that... And vintage Mustangs, still affordable enough.

Uhh. I'd look for a used MIM Fender branded Squier Series, I got this for something like $150 a few months ago... Don't know if they were ever in sunburst though. Alnico pickups, etc. Only thing I think they could do better with is the bridge; top-loader. It's a favorite now, though.

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Re: Rosewood and Telecasters: Stop the Madness!

OP, you sure complain a lot...lol

Just find a lightly used MIM. It'll set you back $350 or so, maybe less.
 
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OP, you sure complain a lot...lol

Just find a lightly used MIM. It'll set you back $350 or so, maybe less.

I know. I know I do. I'm a PITA to be around sometimes. Sometimes my head just gets wrapped around something, and when theres a barrier that I can't work, my response isn't proportional. Anyways, thanks for the ideas, all.
 
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Hey, at least you know it! j/k ;p

Not sure if you're interested, but forum bro Nostalgic Distortion just posted this in the Trading Post: LINK

Sounds like exactly what you want and it comes with some killer upgrades...Duncan 5/2 pickups, Schaller locking tuners, etc...plus a Fender hardshell case, all for $375 shipped!
 
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I hear you.

And I am so pissed that a Martin D-45 Retro is nearly $10,000, and the True Historic 1960 Les Paul I want is about the same. Not fair!

Bill
 
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Ya know what? I think Kareem Abdul Jabbar needs ta bean you upside yo head with a baksetball foo!;

 
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I think I paid a little over $300 for a scratch and dent MIM Standard and $250 at a pawn shop for my other MIM Standard
 
Re: Rosewood and Telecasters: Stop the Madness!

Hey, at least you know it! j/k ;p

Not sure if you're interested, but forum bro Nostalgic Distortion just posted this in the Trading Post: LINK

Sounds like exactly what you want and it comes with some killer upgrades...Duncan 5/2 pickups, Schaller locking tuners, etc...plus a Fender hardshell case, all for $375 shipped!

He's right, my Tele sounds like exactly what you're looking for & it does come with some killer upgrades & a hard case! If you don't like the pickups and such you could always use them as trading fodder for something that you do??? I can't really take the price down anymore because I've still got to ship it but it's a hell of a lot better than anything you'll get from Squire for $400???? Or from Fender MIM for that matter!!!
 
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To the OP, Nostalgic Distortion is an awesome guy who I've done lots of trade deals with–you can trust him and that is a great deal on that Tele for what you are looking for.


I spent way too much time looking at your signature...lol
 
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I have no doubt as to ND's character. I trust this community. Sadly I'm a C-note short. I have a CV now that I love (a much underrated line--by quality deserves better than the Squier rep), and though I don't really want two BTBs, if I had the $400 I would have bought another one and never posted (though I really prefer a sunburst for this one--building a "Sonny" tribute instrument, but I guess I could make a "Malcolm" tribute.) I'm also a fan of the MIMs. Over the decades, I've had various Am Stds, MIMs, CVs, and a couple Affinities and the only ones I just couldn't work with was the Affinities. I love/d my MIM (have a beautiful trans blue deluxe strat now), and I'm sure ND's is an amazing guitar and deal. As our British friends say, just a bit too dear for me just now. That's why I was focussing around the Squier Standard $250 price range.

As for those poking at me crying, yes I'm being a baby, but I'm not asking for the world. I just wish that they made a available a combination of components that are available in other models at that or lower price points. The point isn't that I want the world for a dime. It's just that I could buy two Squiers and cobble together to combination I want...which is essentially the breadth of options available in the strat lines at the same price. Ok, I'm putting away my hanky now.

Hmmm. If I bought two, swapped necks, and resold the combo I didn't want... Shoot, maybe I should just buy a Chinese knock off. There's one factory that has nearly 1000 custom shop Wilson teles. LOL
 
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By that time, it is just easier to save up a little more money. You won't find any kind of burst for that price, certainly not a Tele. Teles were never really as popular as Strats, so they naturally have less options. At a lower price, this is even more true- ask a beginner if they want a Strat or Tele on looks alone, and most would choose a Strat, I think. Fender knows this, and offers more options for Strats.
 
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By that time, it is just easier to save up a little more money. You won't find any kind of burst for that price, certainly not a Tele. Teles were never really as popular as Strats, so they naturally have less options. At a lower price, this is even more true- ask a beginner if they want a Strat or Tele on looks alone, and most would choose a Strat, I think. Fender knows this, and offers more options for Strats.

Well, I think they were more popular from '51-'53 at least. :) Just being silly. I agree. Still, the Telecaster is one of the four most popular guitar models made (both by fender squier, and popular as copies) and one of the most historic guitars. Is it so unreasonable that, just like strats, they could offer 2-3 finishes in both fingerboards at every price point? Hell you can get Bullet Strats for $130 in multiple finishes, maple or rosewood, and SSS or SSH. Is a little love for a Tele twice that cost too much to ask? Maybe it is. Eh. I'll work something out.
 
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If its just the CV body you have issue with, take your CV neck (great budget neck btw) bolt it onto a GuitarFetish body, add pickups, electronics and hardware...exactly what I did. I used a $50 paulownia body and finished it myself.

http://www.guitarfetish.com/Necks-and-Bodies_c_70.html

No, I love my CV. I play it all the time. I've got some nocasters in it, some wiring tweaks, and it's great.

Point is, I'm making a full-time open G 5 string Stones guitar, so I don't want to wreck one I already have.

Since the guitar I'm looking to make is used for just some cover songs, I don't want to invest a fortune in it. Hence, looking at mid-level Squier. It's not even that the money isn't there, really, although I'm hardly rich, but this project is more about the look, the excitement, and not having to detune back and forth.

Buying another BTB CV would be great, but it's just more investment of dollars in this particular project than I think it warrants.

So I'm trying to make a guitar that is functionally like Keef's three main Teles, but since I already have blondes, I thought I' give it the functional feature of his blondes, but the look of "Sonny", his sunburst.
 
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Oh, and as the post title exclaims:

Rosewood on a Tele is a f'ing abomination. I will abide no discussion on the matter. ;)
 
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