rosewood vs ebony

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well, in my quest to get a high end sounding gretsch for cheaper, i noticed that the electromatic hollows have a rosewood fretboard & all the higher end ones have ebony ones

so is there any big tonal difference? and if so, is there a way to make it SOUND like it has an ebony fretboard?
 
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I've heard that ebony brightens up the sound a lot, equal or more so than maple fretboards. Rosewood lends a rounder, smoother tone.

my next warmoth build will probably have an ebony fretboard
 
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drew_half_empty said:
so brighter strings would counter that?

I don't think it works that way. Ebony has that "snap", like maple. Probably because of it's dense grain. That's not to say ebony is "better", just different. I've never met anyone who could pick out fretboard material by sound anyway. If you want an ebony sound, I think you'll have to get one.
 
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I cant hear a difference between any different fretboard material, so I pick ebony because it means its completely uniform color (black).
 
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well, on a few gretsches, the fretboard is 'ebonized rosewood'

...so is there a way to 'ebonize' your fretboard? I have no idea what that means
 
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Maybe it means it's rosewood with some ebony around/in it or something like that... who knows.
 
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I have guitars with ebony fretboards, rosewood fretboards, and maple fretboards. While I like all three materials, ebony is my favorite. To my ears, maple is the brightest. I also think the finish plays a role in how bright a guitar sounds. To me, a maple neck with a gloss finish sounds brighter than a maple with a satin finish. Ebony is in between maple and rosewood as far as brightness. As far as playability, once you break the neck in all three feel good (at least to me). I'm just partial to ebony because I like the feel of it more that the other two. While the rosewood fretboard will influence the sound of your Gretsch Electromatic, the two biggest influences are the Gretsch's hollowbody and filtertron pickups. This is what gives a Gretsch archtop its sound. One thing I did find with my Gretsch is that it needed a heavier set of strings to make it sound really good. With the Bigsby and 25.5" scale, it needed a set of jazz strings to make the body vibrate and give it that acoustic quality that a nice archtop will give you. I put a set of D'Addario EJ21 (0.012 to 0.052) on it and changed out the wound 0.024 G with a plain 0.019 G for bending.
My 2 cents.
 
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drew_half_empty said:
well, on a few gretsches, the fretboard is 'ebonized rosewood'

...so is there a way to 'ebonize' your fretboard? I have no idea what that means

Sounds like rosewood painted black? I've never seen the two mixed on a fret board. It's is probably to make the lower end models look like the higher end models.
 
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Rosewood- warm, round, vocal-like tones.
Ebony- bright, fast attack.

That said, I always choose Rosewood over ebony. More durable as well- I've heard stories of ebony fretboards cracking due to climate changes! Not good!
 
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ebony is probably the most durable wood on this world(if used and maintained properly) and realy fast if used for the fretboard.I can't hear a great sound difference between rosewodd and ebony but it just lokks better on black guitars.
 
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hm... i never had problems with ebonyand i use it a lot(not only on guitars).There's just the question what you consider poor weather. I ive in germany so these oppinions will be a bit different i think.
 
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i live in kansas

summers get up to 105

and winters get to like -5

needless to say, people get sick a lot
 
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Nope, no wear or tear probs with ebony - if you don't look after the guitar, it may go wibbly and it's not the wood.
I find the ebony has that snap referred to above in a straight back to back and can be really fast and relatively bright compared to rosewood, but it's only part of the story in terms of overall tone.
If it's a hollowbody, then the pickups tend to be more significant and you can change them more easily.
 
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To my ears, ebony is closer to maple in sound than it is rosewood. Only maple has that really sharp high end snap, but ebony seems to retain highs with a less pronounced snap. Still much brighter than rosewood, though.

To my hands, ebony feels faster and more solid. It's a very closed-grain wood and requires no finish, and compared to rosewood it feels much more slick and fast. Plus the near-uniform color is nice too.
 
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I think Brazilian Rosewood is the most textured and complex sounding. Ebony is very pure and clear and elegant sounding. Indian Rosewood is similar to Brazilian but brighter and less complex sounding...doesn't have the wonderful midrange complexity of Brazilian. Lew
 
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