sd equivalent of agile stock alnico bucker?

eor

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hey, i have a 2800 series agile lp and i was trying to find out how these stock alnico humbuckers compare to sd ones. which are they closest to? just trying to get a good point of reference so i know where to go from here.

love,
eor
 
Re: sd equivalent of agile stock alnico bucker?

i have not heard the stock agile pups ... but i do not think that i am too far out on a limb when i say that any SD pickup will be better than the any stock agile pups ... whether you are looking for more clarity, more output, more drive, or some specific kind of tonal shaping, i'd be pretty surprised if you'd ever think that the right SD didnt nail it for you ...

let us know what kind of tone you are hoping to get (what kind of music? what kind of amp? which famous guys' tone you want to get close to? etc.) and we can help aim you at the best replacements ... quite a number of forum members have bought and upgraded agiles and are quite happy with them ... i'm sure we can help dial you in too

good luck
t4d
 
Re: sd equivalent of agile stock alnico bucker?

i guess what i meant was that if i "knew" where i was on the sd tone scale, i know where i want to go from there. (more gain, lows, etc) say, if i was in the ballpark of a 59 (for example), and i wanted more output, i'd know where to go, you know?

i have another guitar with two alnico 2's (split and parallel) in it that i just love, but it's a super low budget guitar and this is my first "real" guitar. (real fake!) doing the same thing seemed to easy and safe to me. i love the alnico 2, though; that's why i went for the 2800 series. the rest are either ceramic or alnico 5.

i went for versatility with my last guitar and the dual alnico 2 pros never let me down. they were the cleanest sd pup to me, that still put out plenty of gain.

i want pristine clean/high gain like everyone else. i didn't want to do the same thing over again (although i might), but i didn't want a conventional combo like the jazz-jb set. i'm funny that way.

so yeah. once i know where i'm at, i know where i'm heading.

love,
eor

by the by, the stock pups really aren't so un-good. i'm in no hurry. i just know it could be better.
 
Re: sd equivalent of agile stock alnico bucker?

You would have to measure the DC resistance of the Agile pickups and know their magnet type to ballpark a guess but there are quite a few other factors that influence tone from a pickup.

Disconnect the Agile pickups freom the guitar and break out an ohm meter if you don't know the exact specs.
 
Re: sd equivalent of agile stock alnico bucker?

here's the specs from the site:

Alnico 2 Pickup spec:
Neck: Inductance: 8.4 Henries, DC Resistance: 14k ohms
Bridge: Inductance 8.6 Henries DC Resistance: 16k ohms

any ideas?

love,
eor

i didn't see any alnico 2 pup with a dc resistance that high. what does that mean?
 
Re: sd equivalent of agile stock alnico bucker?

this is not to be construed as a bump in any way, shape or form

love,
eor

:)
 
Re: sd equivalent of agile stock alnico bucker?

Yes it is... ;) With these high impedance values it's very likely that they have ceramic magnets, too, so it's something from the heavier side. Sorry, not my department...
 
Re: sd equivalent of agile stock alnico bucker?

so you mean they are fibbing? :( dun dun dun!

so they kinda stack up like a duncan custom (ceramic- 14.1k @ bridge, but in the neck) and a jb (alnico 5- 16.4k) @ the bridge? something like that?

love,
eor
 
Re: sd equivalent of agile stock alnico bucker?

how about a set of Pearly Gates? ... you like A2 pups, but want something a little different .. i bet they'd be cool ... and with the 21 day return policy, you could always switch if you dont dig them


good luck and let us know
t4d
 
Re: sd equivalent of agile stock alnico bucker?

eor said:
here's the specs from the site:

Alnico 2 Pickup spec:
Neck: Inductance: 8.4 Henries, DC Resistance: 14k ohms
Bridge: Inductance 8.6 Henries DC Resistance: 16k ohms

any ideas?

love,
eor

i didn't see any alnico 2 pup with a dc resistance that high. what does that mean?

The Duncan Custom Custom is 14.4k with an Alnico 2 mag.
 
Re: sd equivalent of agile stock alnico bucker?

Right, you have to compensate many windings with a strong magnet (either Alnico V like the Jeff Beck model or ceramic), otherwise the sound will be too muffled. So I don't know why you think they would have Alnico II magnets, did the specs say so?
 
Re: sd equivalent of agile stock alnico bucker?

not that it's the best way to compare, but i went through the soundclips again, and while i liked the pearly gates, i still like the alnico 2 pro more. but who knows how it will react with my gear? i also checked out the custom custom and a few more but didn't care for them, either.

i did kinda like the sound of the jazz at the bridge position. is that common? is that a good idea? could it handle high gain metal stuff? i figure it could if the a2pro does. again, i'm using an les paul type guitar here.

love,
eor

ps- yeah, the specs said alnico 2. they are specific to that model numbers. the lower end ones have ceramic and the higher end have alnico 5.
 
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