Seymour Duncan Twin Tube Classic Review

Jeff_H

Dean Hardtail Fanologist
Thanks to my good friend Puckboy I am able to try this pedal out for a little while. Thanks to my crappy herniated disc, I am unable to play the guitar for very long, and almost completely unable to stand while playing.

Anyhow, the pedal itself...everyone knows the specs. The amp I'm using it thru is my Jeff Seal modded JCM 800, 2 channel 2205 circuit (originally). My clean channel most resembles the chimey, bell like tone of a Fender Twin, since that's what I asked Mr. Seal to emulate for that channel. Using it of course thru the clean channel.

Crunch Mode. Very, very old school Marshall crunch type sound. Think of any band that uses a non master volume EL34 type amp and plays old school, driving rock...and this is it. There is no type of rock, blues or punk rythym tone you couldn't get thru this mode.

The volume and gain knobs work very well to let you dial in the amount of crunch you want. Through my amp anyhow, it is a very open, non compressed, organic tone. I have to say that it sounds every bit as good as the gain channel on my 800...and is quite a bit quieter. This channel will get up to the tones of say a Judas Priest or Dokken type distortion, but at this point you lose the balance in volume between your clean channel and the crunch channel.

Lead Mode. Takes over where the crunch mode left off. Takes you right from that AC/DC type crunch of the crunch mode to modded plexi or JCM 800 tone...depending on how high you set the volume and gain. I am impressed at how much this also sounds like my JCM 800 when I put the channel volume up around 5-6 and the master volume about the same...you can hear the tubes cooking when I do this with my amp, but the volume is way too much at home. Well, this thing will pull off that tone, but at more useable volume levels. I'm not talking about super quiet bedroom levels, but at levels where you're neighbors won't complain.

Great mode for heavy riffing, hard driving old school metal, hard rock type stuff. Sorry, I don't play a lot of modern metal, so I can't compare the tones, but any hard driving tone you wanted you could get.

The only thing I haven't been able to dial in is a singing, heavy sustain, syrupy lead tone. Something with some compression and real sweetness, like a Satriani "Only With You" or a Vai "For The Love Of God" type tone. That may be asking too much of the pedal, or just the fact that my amp can't deliver those tones, so the pedal can't milk them out of there either. Also, I haven't spent enough time with it to really say this for certain...It's just not there right now.

Some complain about no midrange tone knob, but I don't find this to be a problem at all. The pedal is very natural sounding. The tone knobs are also very interactive, especially when it comes to gain. I initially set bass and treb at noon, dimed the gain on crunch and adjusted the volume of this channel to match well with a switch from my clean channel. Well, when I went to add a little more bass and treble, I also got more gain...very cool.

With regard to the lead channel, I don't want to give the impression that it doesn't compreses, because it does. It also gets noticably darker in my experience...like turning down the presense or treble on your amp. Not enough to warrant it being a complaint, and I think it would be very useable in a lead guitar setting.

So, all in all a great pedal. If you have a single channel amp, or an amp where you love the clean channel but don't like the drive sound, this is a great pedal. To my ears it is very Marshally. I think it would work well with a bunch of different amps. If you are looking for a very modern, smooth, violin type singing sustain....it may not be here. I haven't found it yet.

It's worth every bit of what they ask for it. I would really like to A/B/C it to other 2 mode pedals like the Mosfet Fulldrive FD II and the Plexitone. I have a feeling that the FD would get the smooth, silky, compressed tones that I was looking for in the lead mode, but not have the sound in the crunch modes I like so much. I think it would be very similar to a Plexitone.

Is is a do it all pedal...no. Does it do more than any pedal I have tried to date...absolutely. It sounds so much like a Marshall on the crunch and lead modes it's scary. If I could just get it to compress a little more on lead and sweeten up, it would be perfect.

Just my $.02
 
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I've been thinking about buying this pedal Jeff and appreciate the great review! I've had my CM Plexitone for quite awhile and still get along really great with it.I'd just not like to have another pedal that sounds like the Plexitone though...
 
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Good review Jeff. The true test for any gear is how it performs in a live gigging setting. I got to use my TTC at 3 gigs over the summer,And at the NY/LI SDUGF jam. It passed with flying colors on all counts! In all Gigs I used my Hot Rod Deluxe which is mostly stock. I have good tubes in it,And it's biased a Lil' hotter that out of the box. I was pleasantly surprised that the HRD & TTC combo seemed to be able to hold it's own tone wise w/t Bludave's Bogner Shiva at the NY/LI Jam. At the summer gigs the band was blown away by the sounds I was getting. The rhythm channel is voiced (as Jeff stated) Crunchy (think Plexi) my only nit picking gripe with it is I found it very hard to get a good BF Fender grind from it. But it's very capable of getting a smooth blues OD to a AC/DC Crunch. The lead channel is very enabling. I was able to get tight searing leads from it (think Santana) very transparent and 3D tone. The notes seem to bloom under your finger tips and you get violin like sustain. I haven't gigged with my 2204 & TTC yet. In the bedroom it gets to LOUD! And doesn't seem as versatile as the HRD, But next time I have a gig that calls for a half stack... I'll see what it can do for that amp?:)
 
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Glad ya' like it Jeffro :bigok:

Did you try it with hums or singles?

I play mostly singles & it seemed to sustain pretty well for me, but I don't recall what else I may have had in the chain.

And FWIW, I've had the FD II 10th & Plexitone as well. All are great pedals, but the FD seemed more suited to a cleaner Fender type amp, the Plexitone to a Marshall type amp. The SFX-03 seemed to get along with either.

Does it do it all.....no. But what it does is pretty damned sweet :D

Rock on my friend :headbang:
 
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It is still my my favorite pedal for most everything, especially Santana-ish leads. Great pedal for me.
 
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i want to try one of these so bad with my Twin to see how it sounds, but i can't find one around here locally.
 
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How does it react when being goosed by a Tubescreamer type pedal? Anyone tried this yet?
 
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How does it react when being goosed by a Tubescreamer type pedal? Anyone tried this yet?
1st off, If you A/B the TTC with a TS style pedal... The TTC WINS! No contest. If you put the TS pedal in front of the TTC, You lose the transparency of the TTC and take on the tonal characteristic's of the TS pedal.Running the TS after the TTC seems to work better,But honestly I haven't found a practical need to goose the TTC.:)
 
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I do that a fair bit when I want the TS hitting an amp tone. I use the TS as a boost then. It reacts just like an amp does.
 
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Very interesting. :)

I ask because I like the sound of an amp about to break up being pushed over the edge by a TS. The problem is that my only "real" amp is a BF Bassman that gets ridiculously loud when its about to break up. Y'all think the TTC could make my Bassman more useable in small club situations?
 
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Very interesting. :)

I ask because I like the sound of an amp about to break up being pushed over the edge by a TS. The problem is that my only "real" amp is a BF Bassman that gets ridiculously loud when its about to break up. Y'all think the TTC could make my Bassman more useable in small club situations?

The TTC hits the amp with a lot of signal (Much more than a TS) But I'm sure you could find a happy medium by turning the amp down and adjusting the TTC accordingly. My last gig I used mostly a Strat into a HRD on 4 with the TTC set at a good sound level. Everything sounded fine until I plugged in my Vee w/t a hot Bucker (SH-11) When I stepped on the TTC lead channel... I was blowing people into the cheap seats.:smack: (Forgot to turn down the level on the TTC a bit):27::chairfall
 
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I put my PODxt on the shelf for this pedal. I use Crate Powerblock heads and it is the best tone I ever got out of a solid state amp when this pedal is plugged into the front. I am really happy that it actually feels and responds like a tube amp. It makes the DS-1 sound like P(*& I think it is more than a pedal and calling it one does not do it justice.

I use Fender guitars with SD JB's and 59's.
 
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It's definately the best pedal I've played to this point in my life. I would still like to try some others, like the Plexitone, FD II, Banzi Fireball, OCD and maybe one or two others, but it will have to wait. I don't have the time or the funds to do that much experimenting right now.

The more time I spend with this, the more I like it.
 
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I am curious to know how does the Rocktron Silver Dragon match up against the TTC?:)

The Silver Dragon has the fizz and the gritty edge to it that the TTC does not that my Tweeds have a bit. The Silver Dragon does the ratty tweed to the Mesa recto fizzy with more bass emphasis for palm mute chug thing . The silver Dragon has not been as good for the leads as rhythm to me.

The TTC is more classic rock to smooth Mesa (Mark IV) lead tone with a smoother rhythm tone. I would say the Dragon is more preamp voiced while the TTC seems more power amp voiced to my ears.

Does that help?
 
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anybody try one of these with an old Fender amp?


I have used it with my 50's Tweed Deluxe head clone, the Gretch 6150 (Supro) in a custom 1x12 and my Pro Tube Pro Reverb on the clan channel (Blackface). It has performed well in all of thse contexts. I have not been using it as a boost though, I have been using it as a gain generator by itself in these cases.
 
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I ran mine thru a '66 BF Pro Reverb & a '67 Bandmaster head.

It got along very well thru both, although I'd give a slight nod to the FD II 10th.
 
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