Seymour Dunkan p'ups with a basewood body guitar?
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JB was awful in my RG570, but PATB-1b is great. If your guitar has good lower mids but poor bass, it may be a bad candidate for the JB. Or if it has lots of upper mids already.
Basswood varies a bit in sound, especially with floating vibrato bridges. Can be extremely mid-focused, or it can be well balanced.
Any of the Parallel Axis series (PATB-1b & -1n "Original Parallel Axis", PATB-2 "Parallel Axis Distortion", PATB-3 "Blues Saraceno" and the PASTK-1 stack) work well in basswood, the production guitars that shipped with them in the 90's were mostly basswood.
Custom 8 (a popular forum mod of any of the Custom models, swapping the stock magnet out for an A8), '59/Custom Hybrid, Full Shred & Screamin' Demon (don't dismiss as a metal pickup, it's more like a growlier '59 with tighter bass, very articulate) are all known to work well in basswood.
Screamin' Demon is a good pickup for a neck pickup in a 24 fretter, too, especially opposite a hotter bridge.
I'm sure there are others, but that's some to start with...
JB was awful in my RG570, but PATB-1b is great. If your guitar has good lower mids but poor bass, it may be a bad candidate for the JB. Or if it has lots of upper mids already.
Basswood varies a bit in sound, especially with floating vibrato bridges. Can be extremely mid-focused, or it can be well balanced.
Any of the Parallel Axis series (PATB-1b & -1n "Original Parallel Axis", PATB-2 "Parallel Axis Distortion", PATB-3 "Blues Saraceno" and the PASTK-1 stack) work well in basswood, the production guitars that shipped with them in the 90's were mostly basswood.
Custom 8 (a popular forum mod of any of the Custom models, swapping the stock magnet out for an A8), '59/Custom Hybrid, Full Shred & Screamin' Demon (don't dismiss as a metal pickup, it's more like a growlier '59 with tighter bass, very articulate) are all known to work well in basswood.
Screamin' Demon is a good pickup for a neck pickup in a 24 fretter, too, especially opposite a hotter bridge.
I'm sure there are others, but that's some to start with...
Chuck_Norris
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The Dimebucker slays in basswood!
The Dimebucker slays in basswood!
9unslin9er
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Agreed. JBs work especially well in Basswood.
Basswood has similar frequencies to Korina wood. Slighty higher than the lower mids than Mahogany.
Van Halen seems to love it enough to use in his Wolfgangs. Paul Gilbert was using a DMZ Tone Zone in his basswood signature throughout his Mr. Big (90's) days and gave a very convincing "brown sound."
Agreed. JBs work especially well in Basswood.
Basswood has similar frequencies to Korina wood. Slighty higher than the lower mids than Mahogany.
Van Halen seems to love it enough to use in his Wolfgangs. Paul Gilbert was using a DMZ Tone Zone in his basswood signature throughout his Mr. Big (90's) days and gave a very convincing "brown sound."
Ironbird666
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I followed this advice with the PATB-1/59n (later swapped the mag to a UOA5 for the better) in my Jackson Dinky Reverse Pro and it was a GREAT choice in pickups, highly recommended for hard rock/metal! I can easily go from 80's hard rock to the heaviest, nastiest metal I can play with that guitar, then switch channels and have some sweet clean tones as well. Don't count out Basswood as a tone wood if it's a good piece, it just gets a bad rap from the large amount of cheap, low quality guitars using that particular species as a body wood. Good luck!
I followed this advice with the PATB-1/59n (later swapped the mag to a UOA5 for the better) in my Jackson Dinky Reverse Pro and it was a GREAT choice in pickups, highly recommended for hard rock/metal! I can easily go from 80's hard rock to the heaviest, nastiest metal I can play with that guitar, then switch channels and have some sweet clean tones as well. Don't count out Basswood as a tone wood if it's a good piece, it just gets a bad rap from the large amount of cheap, low quality guitars using that particular species as a body wood. Good luck!
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We're talking about an Ibanez JS1000,so wood quality is out of the question.
The Fred/Paf combo is good but sounds a bit "clinic" to my ears.
I really loved the JB on my previous mahogany body guitar but the JS basswood is very mid-focused,so that could be a risk considering the JB EQing,right?
The '59 on the other hand was a real mess.Very expressive,sweet and biting at the same time but absolutely absent from the mid range.It was like auto -dropping your amp gain to somewhat 3,when played those mid strings!
So,I'm guessing that the '59 would cover that JS neck spot just nice...
We're talking about an Ibanez JS1000,so wood quality is out of the question.
The Fred/Paf combo is good but sounds a bit "clinic" to my ears.
I really loved the JB on my previous mahogany body guitar but the JS basswood is very mid-focused,so that could be a risk considering the JB EQing,right?
The '59 on the other hand was a real mess.Very expressive,sweet and biting at the same time but absolutely absent from the mid range.It was like auto -dropping your amp gain to somewhat 3,when played those mid strings!
So,I'm guessing that the '59 would cover that JS neck spot just nice...
Re: Seymour Dunkan p'ups with a basewood body guitar?
It's not just how much mids, but where the peaks fall. If the peaks line up wrong in the upper mids, it sounds grating. Wrong in the lower mids, it gets flubby.
Also, a lot of the EVH guitars (don't know which Wolfgang was being discussed, there's been a few of them now) have a maple top, which tightens, brightens & evens out even poor basswood. Not the same sort of beast, closer to the classic maple/alder tele the JB was originally designed for.
There are also people who love the JB in ANYTHING, and their opinion isn't necessarily useful to others (though it's not wrong, either, if they make it work for them. Just low utility for someone who needs to match the pickup to a particular guitar).
It's not just how much mids, but where the peaks fall. If the peaks line up wrong in the upper mids, it sounds grating. Wrong in the lower mids, it gets flubby.
Also, a lot of the EVH guitars (don't know which Wolfgang was being discussed, there's been a few of them now) have a maple top, which tightens, brightens & evens out even poor basswood. Not the same sort of beast, closer to the classic maple/alder tele the JB was originally designed for.
There are also people who love the JB in ANYTHING, and their opinion isn't necessarily useful to others (though it's not wrong, either, if they make it work for them. Just low utility for someone who needs to match the pickup to a particular guitar).
Ironbird666
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Cool deal, I wasn't insinuating that you had a lesser quality axe, just expressing my annoyance on "the internets" hatred of basswood (in general, not necessarily here). I'm thinking a '59n would do well for you and either a PATB-1 or 3 would fill in the bridge slot depending on how much output you want. Despair could tell you more in depth about the PATB-3 (and PATB-1) but from my experience the PATB-1 is extremely versatile and is quite capable of conforming to the needs of the player. It can definitely sing, scream, chunk, whatever it is you need it to do. Cleans are great as well. I would venture to say the PATB-3 is a more PAF-style version of the PATB-1 so if you're looking for more of that style of tone I wouldn't be scared to try it. :1:
Cool deal, I wasn't insinuating that you had a lesser quality axe, just expressing my annoyance on "the internets" hatred of basswood (in general, not necessarily here). I'm thinking a '59n would do well for you and either a PATB-1 or 3 would fill in the bridge slot depending on how much output you want. Despair could tell you more in depth about the PATB-3 (and PATB-1) but from my experience the PATB-1 is extremely versatile and is quite capable of conforming to the needs of the player. It can definitely sing, scream, chunk, whatever it is you need it to do. Cleans are great as well. I would venture to say the PATB-3 is a more PAF-style version of the PATB-1 so if you're looking for more of that style of tone I wouldn't be scared to try it. :1:
Sruffie777
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I have a C8 In my rg4 sounds so good you can taste it. :yes11:
I have a C8 In my rg4 sounds so good you can taste it. :yes11: