Seymour hooks me up again!

Elias Graves

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I've used many SD products and have never been disappointed. My latest project is a "tele" made from an old, unfinished Gretsch Astro Jet body. 50 year old mahogany!

I put a Broadcaster in the bridge and an SM3 mini humbucker in the neck. I'm in heaven!

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Gotta hand it to Gretsch, they can make some homely guitars!!! Right off the bat, the headstock change is a winner! looks like a cool body (plain and def now!) Very cool what youve done with it!
 
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Similar question to OP - can you go more into how the SM3 neck feels/sounds? I've been curious about that particular pickup lately.
 
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Similar question to OP - can you go more into how the SM3 neck feels/sounds? I've been curious about that particular pickup lately.


Sure. It's my favorite neck pickup and I've had this particular in 4 guitars now so I think I know it pretty well.
It's 90% vintage firebird pickup with some extra mids thrown in. With low gain, it can easily pass for a strat neck pickup. With high gain, it gets the humbucker wall of sound perfectly.
The bass response is bottomless but not boomy. The highs are clear and crisp but never harsh.
I've never used the bridge version but it's hotter than a vintage bird but not like the newer ceramic Gibsons.
Hope that helps.

I'm working on some clips. Nothing yet.
 
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Similar question to OP - can you go more into how the SM3 neck feels/sounds? I've been curious about that particular pickup lately.

I've been toying with the idea of a tele with mini's in, so I'd be interested too.
I don't know much about magnets but hear that ceramic magnets are the spawn of satan good for metal but nothing else and this makes me consider spending more and going for the antiquity minis.

If someone can tell me it's nonsense and ceramics are awesome I could save some money
 
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I've been toying with the idea of a tele with mini's in, so I'd be interested too.
I don't know much about magnets but hear that ceramic magnets are the spawn of satan good for metal but nothing else and this makes me consider spending more and going for the antiquity minis.

If someone can tell me it's nonsense and ceramics are awesome I could save some money

Well, good ceramic magnet pickups exist and they probably have an unfair rep. Problem is most pickups made with them weren't designed for them. They were designed with Alnico in mind, then subbed.
Reverend and G&L both use ceramic magnets and their pickups sound ok to me.
I think the key is the designer has to take that magnet into account from the outset.
The bigger problem with many ceramic mag pickups is that they're horribly overwound until the music is gone from them. They're all mids and compressed sounding. Not my cup o tea.


I don't like the current Gibson firebirds or the SM2. Both are too hot for me.
The SM1, SM3 and Antiquities are all great.
The SM1 is to the Antiquity what the Duncan 59 is to the Antiquity model humbucker. Basically the same under the hood but the Antiquities are all vintage correct and all that.
The SM3 neck is interesting. The construction is actually a hybrid between a firebird pickup and a mini.
The firebird has A5 bar magnet blade pole pieces wrapped with wire. Since the magnet is the pole piece, that makes it more Fender-y sounding right off. It's a fairly bright pickup.
The mini humbucker is just that. A shrunken PAF. Screw & slug poles with bottom loaded A5 magnet. It has more mids than a firebird and sounds more like a Gibson pickup than the bird does.
The SM3 is still a blade but it uses a steel blade and has a bottom loaded A5 magnet. The output and basic sound is the same as a vintage firebird but it has more presence in the mids and bass.
 
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Sure. It's my favorite neck pickup and I've had this particular in 4 guitars now so I think I know it pretty well.
It's 90% vintage firebird pickup with some extra mids thrown in. With low gain, it can easily pass for a strat neck pickup. With high gain, it gets the humbucker wall of sound perfectly.
The bass response is bottomless but not boomy. The highs are clear and crisp but never harsh.
I've never used the bridge version but it's hotter than a vintage bird but not like the newer ceramic Gibsons.
Hope that helps.

Indeed, it does, thank you. I've been listening to Johnny Winter lately and jonesing for that single coilish mini sound. Looks like SM3 is somewhere in my future!
 
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Different, and wild! Thanks for going the unique route and not another pic of a flamed burstoftheweek. I bet it rocks!
 
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Higher resolution pics.
And the more I mess with it, the more I can make it sound like a Ric. It's pretty convincing.

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looks great! im a big fan of firebird pups or minis in the neck with a tele bridge pup
 
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Eli, I've followed your thread on TDPRI for a while, excellent job you've done on it; I think the best part is envisioning how to take it from gretsch's dated oddball look to a really cool and unique guitar. The finish it's great, and I particularly like how you handled the electronics cavity. Your description of the SM-3 makes me want to try 3 in a Strat. Thanks for sharing, and the great build threads in different forums!
 
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