Seymour’s signature on my 64 Fender?

[ARC]

Hey there!
First time posting, but because of a specific question. I have a 1964 Bandmaster that I bought a couple of years ago, and upon pulling out the chassis, I found a Seymour Duncan signature (maybe?) on the OT.
I think the transformer dates from the 80s. Anyone know anything at all, or any reason for this? Thanks!

Edit; it says I’ve posted twice, not once. I probably had a few and forgot.

 

[misterwhizzy]

Does MJ do the transformer rewinds these days?

 

[ErikH]

Umm. That’s not a signature, as in cursive. Definitely not Seymour’s.

 

[beaubrummels]

My guess is they might have pulled the transformer out of one of Seymour's convertable amps he was making/selling back in the day.

 

[ARC]

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Did the convertible amps come with an 80s Fender OT? The code leads me to believe that’s what it is, unless I got that wrong. No idea about the convertible amps.

 

[Mincer]

You can see an actual Seymour signature here:



I have no idea where the transformer came from...but it sounds like a cool mystery. Maybe send a message to SD directly? They might just forward it to him or ask what it could be.

 

[beaubrummels]

Did the convertible amps come with an 80s Fender OT? The code leads me to believe that’s what it is, unless I got that wrong. No idea about the convertible amps.
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Looking at the schematics, the Fenders have 4, 8 and 16ohm output taps, the Duncan only has 4 and 8ohm. And the PT has 5 taps on the Duncan and 7 on the Fender Bandmaster, but without knowing the model/part number that's not really definitively telling much. It's a mystery. Only other thing I could think of is if Seymour actually rewound a transformer, but I don't think that was ever his gig (unless he took it on as a one-off chore while working on the Convertibles?)

 

[ErikH]

ErikH Dang, sorry I used the wrong word, but you’re right. Next time, before I post, I’ll send you the comment so you can just DM me the snide comment.

Did the convertible amps come with an 80s Fender OT? The code leads me to believe that’s what it is, unless I got that wrong. No idea about the convertible amps.

Didn't intend for it to come off as snide. My apologies.

 

[jeremy]

i doubt seymour rewound a tranny. what are the codes on it?

 

[ARC]

ErikH it’s okay. I just don’t need to post anything for at least two hours after I get home from a grumpy work day.

Here’s the OT numbers. 018343 EIA606-715. It also is stamped “FENDER” right above the number.

 

[ErikH]

Googling those OT numbers brought up this post on TGP from 2 years ago about the same thing. Is that your post?

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/seymour-duncan-transformer.2171833/

 

[ARC]

Yeah, I think that’s around the time when I gave up looking the first time. Cool, I had forgotten about that.

 

[NegativeEase]

Looks like a service repair label for that transformer not a signature.

Maybe Seymour had some work done on it.

 

[Securb]

Looks like a service repair label for that transformer not a signature.

Maybe Seymour had some work done on it.

Exactly what I was thinking it could have been Seymour's old amp or more likely a testing amp from The Seymour Duncan Company that was sent out to be fixed. Either way, it is a cool amp no matter where it came from.

 

[ARC]

Thanks for all the help. I like the service repair answer.

 

[JamesPaul]

Seymour worked at the Fender Soundhouse on Tottenham Court Rd when he was in England - correct?

I definitely could see him with the skills to swap out a transformer in, or service a Fender amplifier.

 

[jeremy]

oh, im sure seymour could swap a tranny. probably has but im sure he wasnt doing that in the 80s when that tranny was made unless it was his personal amp

 

[JamesPaul]

Agreed, I was thinking his amp, a test amp or a close friend's amp.

ARC - are you in the US?

 

[LLL]

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Did the convertible amps come with an 80s Fender OT? The code leads me to believe that’s what it is, unless I got that wrong. No idea about the convertible amps.

Based on all the data here, that would be my guess.

It's not Seymour's sig.

Logically speaking, it is most likely a replacement OT pulled from a Seymour Duncan Convertible amp (which were made in the 80s), and someone at some point in time slapped a piece of masking tape on the OT and wrote "Seymour Duncan" etc for their own reference to remind them it came from an SD Convertible amp.

Verifying the SD Convertible amp line using that particular OT part number... would tell you for sure.

 

[beaubrummels]

Based on all the data here, that would be my guess.

It's not Seymour's sig.

Logically speaking, it is most likely a replacement OT pulled from a Seymour Duncan Convertible amp (which were made in the 80s), and someone at some point in time slapped a piece of masking tape on the OT and wrote "Seymour Duncan" etc for their own reference to remind them it came from an SD Convertible amp.

Verifying the SD Convertible amp line using that particular OT part number... would tell you for sure.

Yeah that's why in post #7 I noted the taps are all different on the Fender vs the Duncan transformers, according to the drawings, so I'm not convinced they are interchangeable.