SH Tele 4-way switch wiring and pickup suggestions

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I've been hanging around this forum for years but I've never really felt the need to start an account and post anything, because the answers have always been there for me already, in one thread or another. I've learned pretty much all I know about pickups, magnets, tonewoods, pots and capacitors just from browsing this forum. Special shouts out to Lewguitar, Aceman, blueman335 and the guy who invented fire. Your knowledge and experience is invaluable.

Anyways, to the topic at hand: I'm looking at upgrading the pickups in my recently acquired 2017 MIM Tele (maple neck and fretboard, alder body). I've already replaced the bridge and the electronics, and now it's time to rip the pickups out. I'm very, very tempted to go for a setup with a neck humbucker.

I already have a 4-way switch in there, so I figured I'd want to go with a wiring that allows me to split said neck humbucker and give me the following:

Position 1: bridge only
Position 2: bridge and neck humbucker
Position 3: neck split
Position 4: neck humbucker

I've found a diagram that's in the ballpark of what I want to do, except the second position has the neck pickup split instead of in full humbucking mode.

So, my question is - how would I have to wire it all up to get the above configuration, if at all possible?

Now, on to the pickups themselves.

I had an SH-1n and an STL-1 in an ash Squier a while ago and while I did dig the concept, those pickups didn't really cut it for that application and I eventually sold the guitar on. The bridge pickup sounded great on its own but was a little bit too weak and lacking in the mids compared to the neck pickup, which in turn was too dark to play anything but bluesy leads. I tried disconnecting it from the tone pot which got me the treble I wanted, but the volume mismatch was still there and I missed being able to roll the edge off for the bloozier stuff.

Right now, I'm leaning towards an SH-2n Jazz for the neck position and an STL-1b Broadcaster for the bridge position. The Jazz is supposed to work well with 250k pots and reportedly has a decent split sound, while the Broadcaster ups both the output and the mids compared to the '54 and should be able to balance a humbucker, at least in theory (yeah, I know resistance doesn't equal output - one of the first things you learn here! :P).

I think I'm pretty much set on the Broadcaster based on the demos I've heard, but I'm still open to suggestions when it comes to the neck humbucker. However, the application limits the options - it has to be bright enough for chord playing even with 250k pots, it has to be splittable, and it has to sound good split.

Would an Alnico II Pro work? I understand they're supposed to be slightly more articulate than your average vintage style A2 humbucker, but is it enough? What are they like when split?

Or perhaps a Pearly Gates?

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Re: SH Tele 4-way switch wiring and pickup suggestions

On muito modded ESP LTD TE-212, which has the same woods as tours, I had installed a STK-T2b (Hot Lead Stack) and an APH-1n (Alnico II Pro), a Les Paul three-way position switch, and individual switches for each pickup for Series / Parallel / Split wiring. Some magic on the pots, allowing to select between 500k or 250k, depending whether in series or split, to try and catch some classic tones.

The Stack still gives a Tele character, although a modern one. Handles high gain very well. A2Pro is a dream on the neck, liquid solos just pour out, and parallel and split gives very usable tones, mainly in clean/ breakup.

Also added a racing stripe for some Hot Rod look. Added Planet Waves Auto Trim locking tuners, Dunlop straplocks, a Graphtech TUSQ nut, and a string roller.Bridge is an ABR six-string mad
 
Re: SH Tele 4-way switch wiring and pickup suggestions

On muito modded ESP LTD TE-212, which has the same woods as tours, I had installed a STK-T2b (Hot Lead Stack) and an APH-1n (Alnico II Pro), a Les Paul three-way position switch, and individual switches for each pickup for Series / Parallel / Split wiring. Some magic on the pots, allowing to select between 500k or 250k, depending whether in series or split, to try and catch some classic tones.

The Stack still gives a Tele character, although a modern one. Handles high gain very well. A2Pro is a dream on the neck, liquid solos just pour out, and parallel and split gives very usable tones, mainly in clean/ breakup.

Also added a racing stripe for some Hot Rod look. Added Planet Waves Auto Trim locking tuners, Dunlop straplocks, a Graphtech TUSQ nut, and a string roller.Bridge is an ABR six-string mad

Interesting! Not really planning on doing anything quite as complicated, but it sounds like you've got yourself one versatile Tele there. How does the Alnico II Pro perform with 250k on both volume and tone pots?
 
Re: SH Tele 4-way switch wiring and pickup suggestions

Welcome to the forum!

Another good choice would be a 4 conductor Seth Lover, which matches well with either a Broadcaster or even a Jerry Donahue (it still twangs). It sounds like a really cool idea you have there, actually.
 
Re: SH Tele 4-way switch wiring and pickup suggestions

Welcome to the forum!

Another good choice would be a 4 conductor Seth Lover, which matches well with either a Broadcaster or even a Jerry Donahue (it still twangs). It sounds like a really cool idea you have there, actually.

Thanks!

Didn't realize that the SH-55 came in a 4C version. Is it just custom shop, or can you get them off the shelf? I've never played or heard one in person but I like what I'm hearing in the clips.

I overlooked the JD at first since it was listed in the "medium output" section of the Tele pickups. Might be worth a shot, especially if I go with an alnico II neck pickup.
 
Re: SH Tele 4-way switch wiring and pickup suggestions

You can order the Seth Lover as a 4 conductor version...it doesn't have to be Custom Shop. There might be a small upcharge as a Shop Floor Custom, but nothing near CS prices. The Jerry Donhue is a more powerful pickup that still twangs like a Tele and works very well with a humbucker in the neck.
 
Re: SH Tele 4-way switch wiring and pickup suggestions

Interesting! Not really planning on doing anything quite as complicated, but it sounds like you've got yourself one versatile Tele there. How does the Alnico II Pro perform with 250k on both volume and tone pots?

Split and parallel get me very convincing tele neck tones on the former, and like a punched up single coil tone with no noise on the latter. In series it is always on 500k.
 
Re: SH Tele 4-way switch wiring and pickup suggestions

Split and parallel get me very convincing tele neck tones on the former, and like a punched up single coil tone with no noise on the latter. In series it is always on 500k.

I see. Seems most single coils simply sound best with 250k and humbuckers with 500k, especially A2 mag ones.

Now wondering if it be possible to wire things up like this using the 4-way switch:

1: bridge
2: bridge and neck humbucker with tone pot
3: neck humbucker with tone pot
4: neck humbucker without tone pot

(order of 3 and 4 doesn't really matter)

Anyone?
 
Re: SH Tele 4-way switch wiring and pickup suggestions

+1 for humbucker parallel to self instead of split... Rejects noise and a little more character to my ear...

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Re: SH Tele 4-way switch wiring and pickup suggestions

+1 for humbucker parallel to self instead of split... Rejects noise and a little more character to my ear...

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