Should a JazzN overpower a CC?

jafo

jafo

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Hello. This one is really bizarre. I put a JazzN in my PRS SE, and it completely overpowered what was in there (a 10k Santana SE pup). I adjusted heights and such, and degaussed the Jazz a bit, but it was still much louder. I then put a CC in the bridge*, but even that is significantly overpowered. I have the bridge pup closer to the strings, and all that good stuff. Maybe if I grounded the neck pup with a resistor (maybe only one coil, hmm...)? More than likely, I just got a mis-marked JazzN. Any suggestions?

* Yeah, I know I should theoretically have a C5 in the bridge to match the Jazz; but I like the CC better, and the combined tone is very full.
 
Re: Should a JazzN overpower a CC?

You not somehow running it in series and the other in parallel by mistake?
 
Re: Should a JazzN overpower a CC?

The CC should balance well with the Jazz(n).

Does your SE have the PC board selector switch? It sounds like you have an issue in the components or wiring.
 
Re: Should a JazzN overpower a CC?

MikeM said:
You not somehow running it in series and the other in parallel by mistake?
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+1
I had a similuar problem with a new set of pups. I resolved mine by re checking the wires and found that when I stripped back the outer coating, (the black binding around the leads), I had accidently cut the red and white wires. Once I cut everything back more carefully, and re installed, everything was fine. It's a long shot, but it might be it.
 
Re: Should a JazzN overpower a CC?

jafo said:
* Yeah, I know I should theoretically have a C5 in the bridge to match the Jazz; but I like the CC better, and the combined tone is very full.
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I have a JazzB in the neck, and a C5 in the bridge. The Jazz overpowers the C5, in spite of a lot of experimentations of heights.. I'll have to tinker more with it though.
 
Re: Should a JazzN overpower a CC?

Hi guys. Hmm, the sticker definitely says Jazz Neck, I've got the white and red wires connected, and both coils react when tapped with a screwdriver. It's a standard Les Paul style switch, which is probably PC board; still, the pups respond correctly to a tap in all three positions. Drat; I'd hoped it was something simple, but I appreciate the input! Ah well; the sounds are fantastic, and it's a minor issue anyway.
 
Re: Should a JazzN overpower a CC?

Err, and the bridge pup says SH11. Actually, it says ROHS 1ZW55 and SH11; maybe the 1 is an upside-down, shortened T? Actually, it says nothing, since it has no mouth.
 
Re: Should a JazzN overpower a CC?

jafo said:
Err, and the bridge pup says SH11. Actually, it says ROHS 1ZW55 and SH11; maybe the 1 is an upside-down, shortened T? Actually, it says nothing, since it has no mouth.
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What does it say when you measure the resistance of the pup.
At least you'll know if it's a bridge or a neck.
 
Re: Should a JazzN overpower a CC?

I had the same problems with the 59/CC combo in my agile LP.

no matter what i did the CC was thin and weak and the 59 was LOUD: fat and thick and awesome.

it was a matter of getting my guitar setup and intonated for a bit higher action(best thing i ever did for my playing was admitting that super low action robs sustain) and then i lowered the long legged 59' so the stock screws were almost out of the legs. and then i raised the CC to where the mids cut like they should.

i think it has to do with A2 vs A5 strenght.

i got rid of the CC because it didnt have enough low end chunk BTW.

keep experimenting if youre sure the wiring is right.

the mids in a CC should kick the hell out of the JazzN.
 
Re: Should a JazzN overpower a CC?

Heh, I'm still recovering from a bad case of Stevie Ray Vaughn and Ry Cooder; I lower the action a little bit every year, but I'm still a lot higher than factory. Waay too much thunk, but I still like the macho setup. lol

Anyway, I adjusted the pup heights a bit more aggressively, and it's ok now. I'm sure a lot of it is that it's designed for extremes -- thick, dark neck; and bright bridge. Thanks, all!
 
Re: Should a JazzN overpower a CC?

isnt that how far tolerance can drift in a neck model anyways?

+ or - .2k?

thats why i dig my PG set. a completely contrasting set that works great together. not just a slightly overwound bridge PU like with the jazz set.
 
Re: Should a JazzN overpower a CC?

LoFiBrian said:
isnt that how far tolerance can drift in a neck model anyways?

+ or - .2k?

thats why i dig my PG set. a completely contrasting set that works great together. not just a slightly overwound bridge PU like with the jazz set.
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Yeah, the + or - is something like that.

The PG's are still not that far apart.
 
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