Shure SM57... what else?
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Virtual Kevorkian
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Re: Shure SM57... what else?
Gonna be super hard to apply well in a close-micing situation like this.
Best to just play with placement to get it as in-phase as possible, line up manually after the fact in the DAW, or buy a Little Labs IBP.
Gonna be super hard to apply well in a close-micing situation like this.
Best to just play with placement to get it as in-phase as possible, line up manually after the fact in the DAW, or buy a Little Labs IBP.
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GumbyLoveologist
Re: Shure SM57... what else?
Another good mic to check out is the Heil PR-30. It's a front firing, large diaphragm dynamic, and I've been using them live and in the studio for the past few years, and haven't missed 57's or the Sennheisers since. Possibly more money than you wanted to spend, but truly worth it.
http://www.heilsound.com/pro/products/pr30/
Cheers........................................... wahwah
Another good mic to check out is the Heil PR-30. It's a front firing, large diaphragm dynamic, and I've been using them live and in the studio for the past few years, and haven't missed 57's or the Sennheisers since. Possibly more money than you wanted to spend, but truly worth it.
http://www.heilsound.com/pro/products/pr30/
Cheers........................................... wahwah
Mattr4president
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Re: Shure SM57... what else?
The 3 to 1 rule is a good rule jto follow. I'm more familiar with placing the mics 45 degrees from eachother, but i will have to try the 3 to 1.
The 3 to 1 rule is a good rule jto follow. I'm more familiar with placing the mics 45 degrees from eachother, but i will have to try the 3 to 1.
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Re: Shure SM57... what else?
So i grabbed that Audix I5 for 47 bucks today and without doing this before, i quickly mic'd up by cab and it sounds really good. much better then the cheap mic that i had laying around for years now. Now the question is what do you do to get the feel of the room? is there another mic to try with this? any special type?
So i grabbed that Audix I5 for 47 bucks today and without doing this before, i quickly mic'd up by cab and it sounds really good. much better then the cheap mic that i had laying around for years now. Now the question is what do you do to get the feel of the room? is there another mic to try with this? any special type?
Binnerscot
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Re: Shure SM57... what else?
I like i5 more than the 57 for most things. It is great on guitars and snare drums. It has a very similar sound to the 57, but a touch smoother and a little brighter...low end on guitar is a little more defined with an i5 than the 57 (for the heavier stuff). They are neary interchangable for those tasks, just very subtle flavor differences.
I like i5 more than the 57 for most things. It is great on guitars and snare drums. It has a very similar sound to the 57, but a touch smoother and a little brighter...low end on guitar is a little more defined with an i5 than the 57 (for the heavier stuff). They are neary interchangable for those tasks, just very subtle flavor differences.
Binnerscot
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Re: Shure SM57... what else?
Depends on the task:
Close mic'ing a guitar cab - easy, keep the capsules the same distance from the cone (no need to apply 3 to 1), mic angles won't affect phase but will affect the high end response and mid voice of what you picking up (angle to taste). Distance is the phase variable.
Snare top and bottom - easy, keep the mics same distance from rims/heads, flip the phase on one (usually the bottom mic) on the front end (pre-amp) or on the track after it is recorded.
Drum over-heads and room mics - Apply 3 to 1 and then go by ear after the fact, this is more tricky than other common phase issues. With drum over heads, it is important to not only get the phase right for the two overheads themselves, but also against the snare top mic, snare will be one of the louder items in the overheads....you could get a great snare sound with your two sanre mics, but have the phase of the overheads kill it later.
Depends on the task:
Close mic'ing a guitar cab - easy, keep the capsules the same distance from the cone (no need to apply 3 to 1), mic angles won't affect phase but will affect the high end response and mid voice of what you picking up (angle to taste). Distance is the phase variable.
Snare top and bottom - easy, keep the mics same distance from rims/heads, flip the phase on one (usually the bottom mic) on the front end (pre-amp) or on the track after it is recorded.
Drum over-heads and room mics - Apply 3 to 1 and then go by ear after the fact, this is more tricky than other common phase issues. With drum over heads, it is important to not only get the phase right for the two overheads themselves, but also against the snare top mic, snare will be one of the louder items in the overheads....you could get a great snare sound with your two sanre mics, but have the phase of the overheads kill it later.
