Since I've been Poor...

JeffB

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and now that I've sold off nearly everything but one guitar...and narrowing down to one little bedroom amp....

the thing I've been experimenting with on the past several guitars I had (and by NO means is it sufficient to cure GAS :D ) are


Strings.

Yup. String brands. Not much variation in sizing...but just trying same gauge, different brand and comparing them. I've even taken some notes on them when they were fresh..and broke in...and compared them a bit (I know..weird...but I have to do SOMETHING besides GAS for $hit I can't afford :laugh2: )

It' AMAZING how the character of an instrument can change just by finding the right BRAND of strings for it. Different brands have different tensions, tones, etc..new or when broken in.

So for example..here's how my Dean ML79 handled various brand 10-46 nickel plated steel strings

Ernie Ball Slinkys : When new, the tone on these was quite good. Enough bite but not super bright. Tension was a little too tight when new (stiff for bending). They stayed in tune quite well. Broke in, they died tonally *very* quickly, and the tension never did feel right..response became too slow (but they did not feel sloppy or get buzzy). I put on a new set, and the intonation went haywire, and they had a hard time staying in tune. I noticed the wraps on the E and A were starting to separate where they came outta the string through tailpiece. I took them off after a day of frustration and went to..

GHS Boomers: NEW these were bright (sounded phenomenal on this all mahogany axe), and response/attack/feel was fantastic: tension was tight for chugga, but easy enough for bending. Within 3 or 4 days the tone was still bright, but as the strings broke in, they became increasingly sloppy in feel, and started to buzz and rattle...which quite honestly made them sound like $hit. I put on a new set and voila... they were back to super nice. Within a few days...sloppy buzzy rattlin mess. Too bad. I also broke 3 strings on the Boomers. The only brand I broke any strings with. I did not have any issue with wrap separation at the tailpiece.

Next up Dean Markley Blue Steels: I had put these on my Destroyer II and was very impressed. They held their tension and bright tone for quite some time and never got buzzy or rattle-y. On the ML, they did the same but I found them too slinky feeling..even new. Great for bends, but for palm muted chugga chugga..no go (on the Destroyer it was the opposite...there they chugged great and were a little stiff for bending). Because they were so slinky, I took these off and went to...

D'Addario XL 10-46. The old standby for ALOT of guitar players. I used to HATE these strings...years ago I had alot of issues with them. Mostly longevity/breakage/rusty outta the pack. Well, I started using them again recently when I got my explorer (cos they are cheap), and IDK what D'Addario has done in recent years, but they are far better than they used to be. Anyhoo..on the MLs all mahogany body, these are a little *too* warm sounding for my tastes, but acceptable. Feel-wise..these strings so far have been the best match for this guitar. The tension/recovery is good enough for the chugga chugga, they bend well enough, stay in tune, and when they start to die, they don't get buzzy/rattle-y like the GHS do..they just tonally get...meh...bends don't "sing" anymore...loss of sustain, etc. I've experienced no breaks/wrap issues, and on 3 different guitars (explorer, ML, Destroyer) these have been the most trouble free with intonation.

So my point? I guess I don't have one..other than...try some different brand strings on each of your keeper guitars...just go and buy a couple packs of each and experiment. Take some notes when new and broke in. Pretty amazing how one brand can feel/sound the best on one guitar and sound/feel like crap on the next.
 
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nice review!

i did a similar thing a few years back with nearly every brand i could get my hands on (in the same gauge) and now all i put on my guitars are D'Addario XL strings!

-Mike
 
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Blue Steels and Petey get along great.....i'm too skeered to try something different...lol!:smack: :chairfall
 
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Blue Steels are my strings. Been using them or regular Dean Markley's for years. My recent adventure with DR's was uneventful, more frustrating than anything, so I went back to DM Blue Steels.

Gotta remember, Jeff, your chugga-chugga is more like a whack-whack since you have a heavy picking hand. :D :laugh2:
 
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i tried 2 dif brands in the last 2 months

D'arco and Framus (i got no idea who actualy makes them though)
and so far, my fav was d'arco. a touch stiffer than daddarios(all were 10's) real nice punchy tone, with great attack.

the framus strings are pretty nice too, comparable to daddario.
 
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Nicely done, Jeff.

Any plans to try more brands?

well..back when I had $, I pretty much did the same thing with DRs and Gibson strings. Pure Blues, Tite-Fits, Brite Wires, and Vintage reissues.

I love the feel of the DR strings. And they last the longest tonally and don't really break, IME...but on some guitars I had major issues with intonation/tuning stability and on two of my guitars the Pure Blues just wore through/unraveled from fretwear. The Tite fits didn't unravel/wear as much, and the tone/feel was incredible, but they had the intonation/tuning stability issue to some degree on 3 different guitars.

IMO, Gibson strings are REALLY underrated. And they've been making strings longer than anyone so they should really know what they are doing. with the price drop they had on them recently, I don't think they are overpriced at all. Brite Wires were alot like the Tite-fits without the tuning/intonation issues. I really like those strings. The VRs sound really good on a bright guitar, but are kinda like the D'addarios on a darker guitar...they can get really muffled. They were a little less durable at the saddles too.

Gotta remember, Jeff, your chugga-chugga is more like a whack-whack since you have a heavy picking hand. :D :laugh2:

Very true! :laugh2: I've been working on lightening up my technique. Its tough but I'm getting better. Pob is, I just can't get any "feel" in my playing unless I attack the $hit out of the strings. It sounds lame. I can't do the super effortless Malmsteen type playing..my brain and fingers are programmed for the Gary Moore "i'm gonna MAKE this guitar sing/scream" thing. It hurts my speed, but at least I don't sound like some pansy player :laugh2:

I'm gonna step up to 11s on the Dean. I really think based on this ML, and my last one, thats the "sweet spot" in string gauge for tension and playability without getting too sloppy. The MLs are not as "tight" feeling as the Destroyer. I think the Blue Steels would probably work best in that gauge...D'addarios may be too tight. I'll try both.
 
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I had similar results with Slinkys & switched to D'Addarios...I stay there now.

And YES....the Gibson Vintage strings are pretty damned good too. LOTSA life :bigok:
 
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Funny that you mention brand new rusted D'addarios. I opened a package of D'addarios this morning and they show visible rust on two strings. They still sound fine, though.
 
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Funny that you mention brand new rusted D'addarios. I opened a package of D'addarios this morning and they show visible rust on two strings. They still sound fine, though.

Even the ones in the plastic packaging? So much for the purpose of the plastic.

I bought D'Addarios for the first time last week, but they were the EXPs for acoustic. Doesn't exactly apply to this conversation.
 
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D'Addario XL strings are always the best for me. I've tried Dean Markley, GHS, Ernie Ball, Elixir and I always go back to those D'Addario XL. It's not just because they are cheap, but it always sounds nice to my tastes. Maybe I should try other brands
 
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You should try a set of webstrings!
I used to play EB 10`s and boomers, the webstring are much better imo.
They`re really "chruncy" and last for awile !
 
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Dean Markley Regulars for me (10-46) they break in quick and the tone sticks 'til you play it out of them (depends on how sweaty and heavy handed you are). I'm a new strings all the time kind of guy though so it's not unusual for me to change my strings every week if I'm playing a buttload.

For years I was D'Addario fan... then GHS in the late 80's early 90's but after one of the guys I always looked up to (rock solid style and tone for days) turned me on to the DM's I have never looked back since I strung up that 1st set. Even response across the fretboard smooth articulate chording (I know these are products of all the factors in the signal chain).. i just dig 'em.

Every now and then I try something else out for the hell of it or someone gives me a set of whatever they use but I always go back to the Markleys.

Is it possible to get sponsored for jamming with your friends? ;)
 
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Good Thread, JeffB. I posted a thread a little while ago about strings because I knew strings could make big difference in sound. Since that post I settled on D'Addarios (Da-Dairy-Ohs).

GHS Boomers were too boomy- and crisp. The bass notes muddied up my fretboard and I don't like a crispy sounding and feeling string. But I can definitely see why Zakk Wylde loves these strings.

Dean Markley's were also too crisp-y. I don't like that feel on higher lead notes- and overall.

I loved the Erine Ball Slinky's unplugged on my axe. Bright, but GREAT (maybe the best) for Rock N' Roll and just plain rock! Easy to bend, a little rough feeling, but tone all around. Now for their plugged in test! I didn't like their sound through my EMG'S because they didn't come off balanced enuff for me. They didn't even out the pickup, but I swore if I had a JB or a passive in there- it woulda killed!!!

Lastly, I tried the D'Addario's and unplugged they didn't have a vibe like the EB's had- they had a more professional tone: Bright, balanced, consistent, and a very good grip on the wound strings. I immeadiately knew why these are the Player's Choice! The bass strings were tight, as in they were clear in their attack- no bleeding. Plugged in a HUGE smile hit my face because the tone was extremely balanced against my balanced EMG's (and guitar)! Everything, no matter how I hit the string came off even and with consistency! These strings work best I've found and then this discovery lead to pick choice. Like strings I experimented with picks and settled on Delrin material in heavy gauge- I won't get into it but, strings and things WILL DEFINITELY make a difference. :)

Informative Thread.
 
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D'Addario fan for 20 years at least. Hamer's stock string. Dean recently went to them too. I'm also very much a creature of habit too. :27: :laugh2:
 
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On my two strats and my tele... i've had really good results from the pure nickel Ernie Balls. I was even using the pure nickel Fender 150's for awhile, and really thought those weren't bad either.

Back in my earlier days of playing when i played alot of acoustic, i always got myself a set of phosphor bronze D'Addario's. I thought those things were the best. They had this awesome warmth about them, and i liked the darker, almost amber color that they had. Maybe i should try their electric ones.


Anyone use D'Addario electric strings on their MiM Telecasters or MiM reissue Strats??





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Nice thread Jeff, I've been a D'Addario user for years and I've tried just about everything. But I keep coming back to D's.
 
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