Slash Neck Humbucker

[punchlinechar]

Right Now I have a JB/59 combo in my Dinky, but I was wondering how a slash neck humbucker would sound compared to the 59. Anyone have experience with the Slash pups in a superstrat style guitar?

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[darthphineas]

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Tried one a few years ago in a super strat. Didn't like it at all for my goals, even with an A4.

The Slash set was said to be made to account for the way Gibson was making LPs when they started to make the Slash models. Which is said to have been thinner sounding. So the pickups were made to make a thinner sounding guitar sound like Slash's AFD LP with production A2Ps in there.

If I'd have known that earlier, I'd. It have wasted my time or money.

 

[jeremy]

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i thought the slash set was supposed to be a touch hotter than the stock aph1?

youre right about the fact that these in new gibsons are supposed to sound like the aph1 in his old derrig

 

[ErikH]

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The Slash set is a touch hotter than the APH-1's. I tried a Slash neck for a while. Amazing pickup, IMO. No problem cutting through the mix. Had it in my HH Frankenstrat with a Demon in the bridge.

 

[darthphineas]

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i thought the slash set was supposed to be a touch hotter than the stock aph1?

youre right about the fact that these in new gibsons are supposed to sound like the aph1 in his old derrig

I was also lead to believe they were hotter...and that was all I was lead to believe when I bought them.

Hotter is one thing. Being made thicker to compensate for a thinner sounding LP is another. Don't have a link to that article, but it should pop up via Google.

But...if someone wants a hotter, thicker A2P (or hotter, thicker Jazz with an A2), this could fit their needs.

 

[jeremy]

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i guess that i assumed "hotter" would mean stronger mids and output. i havent tried a set but im curious so may pick them up down the line. i have an aph1b laying around so might a/b the bridge pups if i do

 

[darthphineas]

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i guess that i assumed "hotter" would mean stronger mids and output. i havent tried a set but im curious so may pick them up down the line. i have an aph1b laying around so might a/b the bridge pups if i do

I've held on to it. Who knows when I'll come across the right guitar to put it in.

 

[GuitarDoc]

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Yes, from what I understand the Slash has a few more winds than the APH-1. This WILL make it hotter (more "output") and increase the mids.

Compared to the '59, the Slash will be slightly hotter and middier (mostly due to the A2 mag).

 

[Lewguitar]

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i guess that i assumed "hotter" would mean stronger mids and output. i havent tried a set but im curious so may pick them up down the line. i have an aph1b laying around so might a/b the bridge pups if i do

I'm loving the Slash set I put in my PRS SE Singlecut.

Definitely hotter than the APH-1 set. A little hotter than the standard Pearly Gates in my other SE Singlecut, too. Not quite as hot as the Custom Shop Pearly Gates.

The neck APH-2 (7.92K) is slightly thicker and fuller sounding than the APH-1 neck (7.6K).

Absolutely love that APH-2 neck pickup...but for me, it's the APH-2 bridge pickup (8.53K) that makes for the real difference between the APH-1 and APH-2 Slash sets.

Genuine vintage 50's and 60's Gibsons had the same pickup in the bridge and neck positions so the bridge pickup always sounded weaker the neck.

I always thought the APH-1's sounded great as a "vintage" set but that the bridge pickup (7.85K) needed a little "Oooomph" for more modern playing styles.

That exactly what the APH-2 Slash set accomplishes.

It's one of my favorite pickup sets I've ever used.

I'd put the APH-2 set right between the standard Pearly Gates and Custom Shop Pearly Gates in terms of output or volume.

Right now, those are my three favorite sets of pickups and they compliment each other beautifully.

One guitar with regular Pearly Gates, one guitar with APH-2's and one with Custom Shop Pearly Gates.

 

[dotsdad]

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I found the Slash model to be even muddier than the 59. Then again, one player's "muddy" is another player's "fat". Salt to taste...

 

[Lewguitar]

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I found the Slash model to be even muddier than the 59. Then again, one player's "muddy" is another player's "fat". Salt to taste...

Do you play clean? Or always with a lot of grind and distortion? Because neither pickup has ever seemed muddy to me.

I don't play hard rock or punk or heavy metal nor do I often use those tones.

I'm more of a jazzy, classic rock, pop and blues player and when I play rhythm I play clean and I play actual chords: 7th's and 9th's and major 7th's and major 9th's and 6th's and add 9 chords and 11th's and 13th's and all that. Actual chords.

Which makes me wonder if you who find the APH-2 or 59n "muddy" ever hear your guitar without pedals or distortion affecting the natural sound of the guitar.

 

[punchlinechar]

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I do bluesy stuff on the neck, but I use it for solos with lots of gain too. I do a bit of everything

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[Mincer]

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I love the sound of a Slash neck or an Alnico II Pro in the neck of a Super Strat. Those are my 2 favorite neck pickups.

 

[Lewguitar]

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I love the sound of a Slash neck or an Alnico II Pro in the neck of a Super Strat. Those are my 2 favorite neck pickups.

The APH2 neck is becoming mine.

Wonder what the APH2 Slash set or APH1 would sound like in an ES 335?

 

[Diego]

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I think the A2 Pro is not that different from the Slash, and my A2 Pro neck sounds pretty meh in my Jackson Kelly.
I don't think it's suited to 24 fret guitars, since the neck position doesn't sound quite as deep in our instruments. I used to have it in my mahogany, set neck and 22 fret Ibanez and it was awesome in there.

I'd rather have a hotter neck pickup I think.

 

[Lewguitar]

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I think the A2 Pro is not that different from the Slash, and my A2 Pro neck sounds pretty meh in my Jackson Kelly.
I don't think it's suited to 24 fret guitars, since the neck position doesn't sound quite as deep in our instruments. I used to have it in my mahogany, set neck and 22 fret Ibanez and it was awesome in there.

I'd rather have a hotter neck pickup I think.

Good point, Diego. The neck pickup in a 22 fret guitar does sound deeper than the neck pickup in a 24 fret guitar - even if it's exactly the same model pickup.

The neck APH2 does seem slightly fuller sounding than the way I remember the APH1 sounding though.

Maybe not a lot, but at least a little.

Haven't A/Bed them though.

 

[SJ318]

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Lewguitar,
What is a Custom shop set of Peraly Gates? How does it differ from the regular Pearly Gates?
Thank you,
Steve B.

 

[Lewguitar]

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Lewguitar,
What is a Custom shop set of Pearl Gates? How does it differ from the regular Pearly Gates?
Thank you,
Steve B.

Its wound a little hotter by MJ. More output. A little less bite or sizzle to the treble and a smoother tone. Super easy to do pinch harmonics. Billy Gibbons uses the CS set in his stage guitars. They still get a great clear tone for chords and jazzy things, but overdriven tones are thicker and fatter. I really like them.

 

[Mincer]

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I will say that I don't like any neck pickups in a 24 fret guitar, or at least none I've ever heard. Every pickup loses so much when it is in the 'wrong' place (this is true of SGs too), and I haven't liked any of them. For jazz or jazzy blues, (or any style that depends on thicker, touch-sensitive tones), the APH1 sounds amazing in 335s.

 

[Archer250]

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I will say that I don't like any neck pickups in a 24 fret guitar, or at least none I've ever heard. Every pickup loses so much when it is in the 'wrong' place (this is true of SGs too), and I haven't liked any of them. For jazz or jazzy blues, (or any style that depends on thicker, touch-sensitive tones), the APH1 sounds amazing in 335s.

I used to think so, too, but I've recently tried a Custom Stack in a 24 fret guitar... actually sounds killer.