Small Amplifier Recomendations

nukesul

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Hi
I'm new to this forum having found it through Acoustic Guitar forum recommendations. I'm an older, intermediate player having played for about 5 years now totally on an acoustic and I've recently began toying with getting an electric. I asked for advice on the acoustic forum for guitars and I got a lot of feedback recommending a Tele. I have yet to get out to a store to try anything since I don't have any stores nearby. So continuing my research I am now looking into possible amps. I actually think this may be a more important first choice as I would want to then try different guitars through the amp of choice so that they are all on the same playing field. The thought of trying different guitar and amp combinations, as I know some would suggest, would be way to complicated for a newbie and far to time consuming particularly since I am going to have to travel a few hours to find a store with a good selection on hand.
I'm thinking that a 15W tube amp may be a good selection however don't know which one as of yet. I would want the amp to have an output to the board, effects loop and headphone jack as a minimum. One amp that caught my eye was the Traynor YCV20 although I'm unsure if it has the minimum.(If you download the manual it says it does however the pictures on the site makes it appear as if it does not. I have an e-mail in to Yorkville.) Any other suggestions would be appreciated. I'd also welcome guitar recommendations. I could see myself trying to learn some Neil Young, Collective Soul and other such rock bands. I tend to lean to a mellower rock music overall. Currently I am primarily a chord player, both strumming and fingerpicking but would hope the electric would help inspire me to learn more about the fretboard through leads etc. I should also note that I'm not likely to want to fiddle around to find my tone. I just don't have the patience for that. One more thing. Would these type amps sound decent with my acoustic? I know they won't perfectly reproduce the guitar but will they still sound good?

Thanks
 
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Welcome to the board!

AS far as finding a small tube amp with all the features you listed (especially the headphone out) will be a bit tough. The Traynor is a good choice, as is the Fender Blues Jr. Another amp to consider would be the Carvin 16 watt model and the Peavey Classic 30's.

will these amps work with an Acoustic-Electric? yes, but they will not reproduce the full sound spectrum of your instrument. Will they sound good with an AE? That's up to everyone's personal opinion, but I don't mind the sound. I played a Gibson Chet Atkins SST through a Blues Jr and quite enjoyed the sounds.

BTW, a Tele would be a great choice for a first electric. My current fave is my MIJ 69 Thinline Reissue. :burnout:
 
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I'm a Tele player myself but I don't think they are easy for most people to get a great tone out of. Just the opposite: they sound bright and scrapey in the hands of most players.

You really have to learn to shape the tone with your hands with a Tele. It takes a real concious, developed and co-ordinated touch to get a great tone out of a Tele...otherwise they sound very harsh and unpleasant.

I think a Strat would be a much better choice: more tones and more chime. The Tele is not the right guitar for most players...though I sure love mine!

The Blues Jr. is a good recomedation based on the rave reviews and almost cult following those amps seem to have around here. I've never played through one myself.

Lew
 
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Tele's can be tough birds to manage. My first real guitar was a Tele and I can't be thankful enough for it; made me really work hard to get a good sound and everything else in comparison was a total breeze.

The Blues Jr's are great amps. I'm in the cult and really dig mine; gigged with it a few times and is my #1 in my Blues band.
 
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Get a Strat and a Deluxe Reverb RI. Your search for good tone will be over! The rest is up to you!
 
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Welcome to the forum!

Bludave is giving some very sound advice about tone. The problem is a Deluxe reverb reissue will not have a headphone out or a line out to mixer. That said Lew and Skarekrough are also right. It can be....challenging to get a good tele sound. Some days I manage it...some days I don't. In either case a strat or tele you will get a taste of single coils and be able to figure out if you like a brighter/mellower sound etc.

By the way don't say you'll NEVER get into tone chasing...it's an indictment you'll live to regret! :wink:

Luke
 
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Yeah, Strats are easier to get a good sound out of, and would be a better choice for a first electric than a Tele (unless you love spending lots of time finding one, in which case it's a good choice).

For an amp, though, you're going to have to search hard for a 15w amp with an effects loop. I'm not sure if the Blues Junior has it, but it's a great amp anyway. There's also a Kustom Tube 12 that's supposed to be good.
 
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Welcome to the forum!

I'd recommend a Les Paul Standard and the Fender Blues Junior. 15 watts, 1X12 speaker and all tube. :smoker:
 
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i've heard the gretsch electromatic pro jets sound kinda neil young ish

and yeah, blues junior. No headphone jack on those, but its only 15 watts, should be easy to tame
 
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My favorite small, inexpensive amp is the V1512 from the V-Series by Crate. It is a amp full of great tone, very Marshall and Vox-like, very solid construction (far better than a Blues Junior or Peaver Classic 20 or 30 and I have worked on all the above amps). The Traynor is a very good amp that is built to a high standard, but it is at least $100 higher or more than the V1512 or the BJ. The V1512 really does it in my book.

Now to get an amp that does all you want you need to get a high dollar boutique amp or one of the new Vox Valvetronix AD series amps. Record out and headphone jacks are part of that series. I also like the Roland Microcube or Cube 30. Very good tones from the small Roland series; I am very fond of its Blackface model.

Brent
 
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Great replies so far. Keep them coming.

I got my e-mail back from Yorkville and apparently the new YCV20 has all the features I want including external speaker, headphone, and a DI to the board. I haven't looked into those Vox or Roland yet. You're right that most don't seem to have the features I want though. I am selling a Fender Acoustisonic Jr. because I have never been to thrilled with the build quality so I am somewhat leery of Fender right now.(Not that you can judge a company by one product.)

I've always been told that a Strat is a great all around choice and it's also evidenced by the number of pros and others playing them. On the other hand the sheer number of them is somewhat of a turn off. It's always nice to get something a little different. If we are all somewhat in agreement that a Strat is a great choice for someone like myself, which other brands that build a Strat style of guitar should I look into as well. For instance does Yamaha, Godin, PRS etc. also make a comparably versatile guitar for a similar or even cheaper price? What about something that has the tone qualities of a Les Paul with the lead qualities of a Strat?? Such an animal?

I'm just fishing for ideas right now. Once I find a few directions I may want to look at I can start looking for a store that carries enough stock to compare.
 
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Nukesul I will be the first to sing the virtues of Godin. I have an LG P90 model and it is a GREAT guitar. They have great attention to detail on fit and finish as well as fretwork. The new Freeway series is a HSH config and can take you across the tonal spectrum. I wasn't too thrilled with the pups but you said you don't want to chase tone so I won't get into those reccomendations but will say they are adequate.

Fender build quality on everything but the pro series, vintage series and custom series usually does leave something to be desired. I personally am a PTP fan.

Luke
 
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i agree with luke duke on the godin recommendation, they are great guitars for anything just about, great necks amazing detail on finish, and fit, if you look at the neck joint no gaps what so ever, either the LG P90, Freeway Classic, or even the LG Humbucker the reason i recommend the LG HMB is because it has a 5-way switch like the strats to still get a very close to single coil sound, check out there site: www.godinguitars.com, Nukesul i will be the second to sing the virtues of godin :laugh2:, or if you want to pay more lol you good get one of the godin 2 voice guitars, that have electric tone and a VERY VERY convincing acoustic tone, sorry for the rant good luck

P.S i will have a black, or maybe gold LG HMB after christmas, cant wait the GAS is incredible.
 
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If you are looking at the Godin Guitars check out the Montreal model, beautifully made and a ton of tonal options including a pretty realistic acoustic sound.

Amps are tough but if the Traynor gets you the sounds you like there is no reason not to get it, they are really well made amps and Yorkville is really a first rate company to deal with.
 
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Lewguitar said:
I'm a Tele player myself but I don't think they are easy for most people to get a great tone out of. Just the opposite: they sound bright and scrapey in the hands of most players.

You really have to learn to shape the tone with your hands with a Tele. It takes a real concious, developed and co-ordinated touch to get a great tone out of a Tele...otherwise they sound very harsh and unpleasant.

I think a Strat would be a much better choice: more tones and more chime. The Tele is not the right guitar for most players...though I sure love mine!

The Blues Jr. is a good recomedation based on the rave reviews and almost cult following those amps seem to have around here. I've never played through one myself.

Lew

I couldn't have said it anybetter myself!!!
 
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