So PG Neck and...
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voggin
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https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?316440-Seth-Lover-v-WLH
I've never had a 59/custom, but I compared the WLH and Seth lover in this thread. If you know the Seth, maybe this will help as a sort of starting point.
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?316440-Seth-Lover-v-WLH
I've never had a 59/custom, but I compared the WLH and Seth lover in this thread. If you know the Seth, maybe this will help as a sort of starting point.
Thundermtn
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If it is for harder rock or radio metal, the 59/Custom & PGn would be an awsome set! I'm seriously considering a PGb swap to a SH-5 and keeping my PGn in my LP. The PGn is an all time great.
If it is for harder rock or radio metal, the 59/Custom & PGn would be an awsome set! I'm seriously considering a PGb swap to a SH-5 and keeping my PGn in my LP. The PGn is an all time great.
beaubrummels
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59/custom and whole lotta bridge are close in an LP but 59/custom is brighter on the top. Both will work fine and balance well. It's really splitting hairs.
59/custom and whole lotta bridge are close in an LP but 59/custom is brighter on the top. Both will work fine and balance well. It's really splitting hairs.
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Hi, how you doing?
I love Seth's. With mag swapping I can get a good range of sounds, in the PAF Catagory. It comes with an A2 IIRC, and it felt loose, so I tried a roughcast A4. Really amped it up, a little more grit in in it. Then I tried an A5 per forum suggestion, and that is how I use it today.
Anything past 12K is hard to clean up. And I like mids, so after a year of debate and counseling with mincer, I pulled the trigger on the 59/Custom. For stage it got me a lot out front for soloing, although not a PAF type, I found it cleaned up nicely, just like my Seths.
For a back up guitar on stage I wanted a Peter a Green type PAF, hits the amp hard when picking hard, but is touch sensitive when picked lightly, I tried the best was a ThroBak, really did a lot, also PAF in nature, around 8.5K (a hot wind PAF). Then, I saw the talk, hype, interest, reviews on the WLH, so I put it in my Les Paul Jr. - a beautiful heritage "SG" style red I had done, and replaced all the guts, not much as it was 1 pickup guitar. It is hotter also, at 8.8K unpotted, zebra, Custom Shop model and I couldn't be happier. It has a roughcast A5 mag in it as well. When I push it, it does sound like Peters Les Paul.
So I am in pickup hog heaven: WLH, Seth RC A5, 59/Custom, and too many other great Duncan p'ups I use for different guitars. SO: main bridge, solo pickups are WLH, 59/Custom. For a 2 humbucker p'ups are Seth RC A5 neck with a WLH bridge.
Or Seth roughcast A5 neck and 59/Custom.
Steve Buffington
Hi, how you doing?
I love Seth's. With mag swapping I can get a good range of sounds, in the PAF Catagory. It comes with an A2 IIRC, and it felt loose, so I tried a roughcast A4. Really amped it up, a little more grit in in it. Then I tried an A5 per forum suggestion, and that is how I use it today.
Anything past 12K is hard to clean up. And I like mids, so after a year of debate and counseling with mincer, I pulled the trigger on the 59/Custom. For stage it got me a lot out front for soloing, although not a PAF type, I found it cleaned up nicely, just like my Seths.
For a back up guitar on stage I wanted a Peter a Green type PAF, hits the amp hard when picking hard, but is touch sensitive when picked lightly, I tried the best was a ThroBak, really did a lot, also PAF in nature, around 8.5K (a hot wind PAF). Then, I saw the talk, hype, interest, reviews on the WLH, so I put it in my Les Paul Jr. - a beautiful heritage "SG" style red I had done, and replaced all the guts, not much as it was 1 pickup guitar. It is hotter also, at 8.8K unpotted, zebra, Custom Shop model and I couldn't be happier. It has a roughcast A5 mag in it as well. When I push it, it does sound like Peters Les Paul.
So I am in pickup hog heaven: WLH, Seth RC A5, 59/Custom, and too many other great Duncan p'ups I use for different guitars. SO: main bridge, solo pickups are WLH, 59/Custom. For a 2 humbucker p'ups are Seth RC A5 neck with a WLH bridge.
Or Seth roughcast A5 neck and 59/Custom.
Steve Buffington
cvansickle
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Custom Custom!
Custom Custom!
beaubrummels
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So PG Neck and...
Put a rough cast mag in a 59/C and you might not be able to tell the difference hardly at all.
Put a rough cast mag in a 59/C and you might not be able to tell the difference hardly at all.
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beaubrummels,
I agree except being an owner of and currently using both, the 59/Cust. is noticeably louder even to a beginner, not just a poser cork sniffer and grumpy old man like me. And you are right, it does sound cleaner, AND I agree wholeheartedly about an RC A5 in the 59/Cust. To get more "gritty-ness"out of the 59/C.
I was thinking that exact thing for the last week or so, ever since I got the WLH. They would be so close in sound except for the 59/C being louder and bigger in the mids. Not lower mids or higher mids, just plain mids. Say, do you think RC A5 or UO RC A5 would be better. I know about the RC A5 and it's sound, but have not yet tried an UO RC A5. Thanks,
Steve Buffington
beaubrummels,
I agree except being an owner of and currently using both, the 59/Cust. is noticeably louder even to a beginner, not just a poser cork sniffer and grumpy old man like me. And you are right, it does sound cleaner, AND I agree wholeheartedly about an RC A5 in the 59/Cust. To get more "gritty-ness"out of the 59/C.
I was thinking that exact thing for the last week or so, ever since I got the WLH. They would be so close in sound except for the 59/C being louder and bigger in the mids. Not lower mids or higher mids, just plain mids. Say, do you think RC A5 or UO RC A5 would be better. I know about the RC A5 and it's sound, but have not yet tried an UO RC A5. Thanks,
Steve Buffington
stevie_bees
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I have a WLH in the bridge of my McCarty and a '59/C in the bridge of my Fret King Esprit. They are both fabulous pickups and they both split really well. For me the slightly brighter '59/C works in the all-mahogany Esprit really well, with the slightly more rounded WLH getting the top-end push of the maple top in the McCarty. I'm currently using both guitars in my band and the Esprit punches through a little more than the WLH.
I could happily recommend both pickups in a Les Paul, but my first thought was that you'd personally get more out of the '59/C Bob
I have a WLH in the bridge of my McCarty and a '59/C in the bridge of my Fret King Esprit. They are both fabulous pickups and they both split really well. For me the slightly brighter '59/C works in the all-mahogany Esprit really well, with the slightly more rounded WLH getting the top-end push of the maple top in the McCarty. I'm currently using both guitars in my band and the Esprit punches through a little more than the WLH.
I could happily recommend both pickups in a Les Paul, but my first thought was that you'd personally get more out of the '59/C Bob
stevie_bees
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I will add that I put the '59/C in the McCarty for a while, with a JB going in the Esprit. Having put the WLH back in the McCarty and the '59/C in the Esprit I'm a lot happier. Not that the '59/C was bad in the McCarty, just that for me the WLH works better.
I will add that I put the '59/C in the McCarty for a while, with a JB going in the Esprit. Having put the WLH back in the McCarty and the '59/C in the Esprit I'm a lot happier. Not that the '59/C was bad in the McCarty, just that for me the WLH works better.
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i am a cork sniffer and i dont think any magnet will make a c/59 sound like a wlh, closer sure but there will always be a fairly noticeable difference. for what acebob plays i think the pgn & c/59 bridge might be a great combo
i am a cork sniffer and i dont think any magnet will make a c/59 sound like a wlh, closer sure but there will always be a fairly noticeable difference. for what acebob plays i think the pgn & c/59 bridge might be a great combo
beaubrummels
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Yeah I'm not a cork sniffer. I listen carefully, but just until the problem is solved. I guess the question is, is Dr Bob a cork sniffer?
Yeah I'm not a cork sniffer. I listen carefully, but just until the problem is solved. I guess the question is, is Dr Bob a cork sniffer?
EmiAba
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I have never had the 59/custom hybrid. I heard a lot of audio samples and I played two times the guitar of my teacher (Esp horizon NT CM, mahogany and maple top, yes, but not a Les Paul). So my knowledge on the pickup is restricted. But what I heard is enough to state that you can fall in love with it. I like it so much. Unfortunately I don 't have, at the moment, a guitar to be loaded with. :sad:
On the other hand, I know the PG and I don't like it in the neck slot of a Les Paul. It seems to my ears too dark. But I guess the PG is a decision already made (in a different thread you wrote that the PG is a not for everyone, so, I think you know how to get heaven out of hell from it) and I don't want try yo change your mind. My vote is for the 59/custom hybrid
I have never had the 59/custom hybrid. I heard a lot of audio samples and I played two times the guitar of my teacher (Esp horizon NT CM, mahogany and maple top, yes, but not a Les Paul). So my knowledge on the pickup is restricted. But what I heard is enough to state that you can fall in love with it. I like it so much. Unfortunately I don 't have, at the moment, a guitar to be loaded with. :sad:
On the other hand, I know the PG and I don't like it in the neck slot of a Les Paul. It seems to my ears too dark. But I guess the PG is a decision already made (in a different thread you wrote that the PG is a not for everyone, so, I think you know how to get heaven out of hell from it) and I don't want try yo change your mind. My vote is for the 59/custom hybrid
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