Software Reviews: Drumkit From Hell 2, Cubase SE

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Darkness on the edge of Tone
After 3-4 days through trial & error/learning curve, I got Drumkit From Hell 2 and Cubase SE up and running on my PC last night.

Both pieces of software, as well as the DVD drive I needed to pick up for DFH, ran me about $300 in toto. Money well spent!!

I had originally tried using DFH through Sonar 3 Producer. This was a mixed bag of nuts, tho. So, after some searching, it looked to me like Cubase has the MIDI tools I was looking for specifically with drum programming. So, I picked up Cubase SE to use as my sequencer. I then re-installed DFH to use as a VST instrument in Cubase.

Once you finally get everything set up, which includes doing some re-mapping of the drum sounds depending on what kit you have loaded, as well as navigating Cubases's AWFUL help section, the software works really well.

I will address this in two parts, since you need to have both if you're going to use DFH: Sequencing and Drum Sounds.

Sequencing (Cubase SE)
Sequencing in Cubase is a SNAP, especially if you know the basics of music theory. If you don't you really should consider adding an external MIDI keyboard for inputting notes.

After using the Pencil tool to draw in a blank space in a MIDI track, you are then free to input the notes in any way you want: as standard notation, drum beats on a grid, etc etc. For my purposes, I opened up a drum map for that track and then input the notes in step time.

Opening up DFH as a sound module proved to be just as un-intuitive in Cubase as getting to the Drum Editor! As easy as the individual screens are to navigate, getting to them is impossible if you don't know Cubase's idoeosyncracies. The tutorials are pretty useless in this regard, too. I found DFH's skant 3 pages of VST information to be more helpful than Cubase's multi-hundred page PDF documentation!

The Drum Editor window will only allow you to write for as many measures as you initially drew in with the Pencil tool, so if you run out of measures, you need to go back to the main window and make it larger.

The Drum Editor's display is terrific! After confirming what notes played what drum sounds, and renaming several of them to make sense to myself, you can dig right in.

Drum Sounds (Drumkit From Hell 2)
Drumkit From Hell allows you 8 sets of parameters that you can customize: Kick Drum, Snare Top, Snare Bottom, Toms, Cymbals, Overheads, and Room Ambience.

The actual drum sounds are ace! My only complaint is that the snare sound is a bit lower than I would normally use. I haven't figured out an easy way to make the snare louder yet. But then, there are many things I haven't figured out yet!! :)



The Moment of Truth was when I took the simple drum part I programmed and exported it as a WAV to see if it would actually play back and sound the same. AND IT DID! Ain't technology grand????

Special thanx to DSS for turning me onto the program in the 1st place. You made two people very happy - myself, and Davey, who's inheriting my DR-3.
 
Re: Software Reviews: Drumkit From Hell 2, Cubase SE

but i still dont know what sausage and sour kraut has to do with it ...


but beer does make more sense
:lmao:


seems you found your way around =)
i'm expecting products soon, so, chopy chop, get to work :D

and thanks again amigo :D
 
Re: Software Reviews: Drumkit From Hell 2, Cubase SE

I'm glad you got it working in the end Ben. I'm sorry I couldn't be of more use to you last night while I was trying to help you.

I considered DFH myself, but I found that Propellerhead Software 'Reason' works great for me, so I'm sticking with that :)
 
Re: Software Reviews: Drumkit From Hell 2, Cubase SE

Will DFH2 work ok with Sonar 3 producer or do you have to get cubase to make this work ok? I don't know theory, so it might be a good idea to get a cheapish midi keyboard with velocity tracking etc before attempting to use a program like this eh?
 
Re: Software Reviews: Drumkit From Hell 2, Cubase SE

Gr8Scott said:
Will DFH2 work ok with Sonar 3 producer or do you have to get cubase to make this work ok?
Yeah, it actually works better in some respects thru Sonar than thru Cubase. But I'm not using an external keyboard, and was looking for something very specific with the drum programming.

I don't know theory, so it might be a good idea to get a cheapish midi keyboard with velocity tracking etc before attempting to use a program like this eh?
My recommendation is yes, use an external keyboard, but you can always try it without and see how it works.
 
Re: Software Reviews: Drumkit From Hell 2, Cubase SE

Did Sonar not have a midi sequencing function specifically for drum patterns, or was it just not as former-drum-machine-user-friendly as Cubase's?
 
Re: Software Reviews: Drumkit From Hell 2, Cubase SE

iekobrid said:
Did Sonar not have a midi sequencing function specifically for drum patterns, or was it just not as former-drum-machine-user-friendly as Cubase's?
Exactly. The drum mapping in Sonar is not user friendly. In Cubase, it's just point and click!
 
Re: Software Reviews: Drumkit From Hell 2, Cubase SE

Thanks, good to know.

I've been trying to wean a friend off his drum machine for years, but only made it as far as getting him to use it to trigger Battery instead of the built-in sounds. I'll look around for a Cubase screen shot, see if its step-write interface is similiar enough to what he's familiar with to warrant dragging him the rest of the way into the 21st century. :laugh2:
 
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