Sorry to re-hash: SG Std. vs. SG Reissue?
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Re: Sorry to re-hash: SG Std. vs. SG Reissue?
I haven't the foggiest on the technical specs, but I checked out both a little while back and the RI felt more refined, and had a more open and lively tone/feel. That being said, the standard is no slouch. For about $300 less (at the time) it was one hell of an instrument.
I haven't the foggiest on the technical specs, but I checked out both a little while back and the RI felt more refined, and had a more open and lively tone/feel. That being said, the standard is no slouch. For about $300 less (at the time) it was one hell of an instrument.
Psykel
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Re: Sorry to re-hash: SG Std. vs. SG Reissue?
Pickups mostly.
The Standard got 490T and 498R pups, the 61 Reissue got 57 classics.
The 61 Reissue costs quite a bit more too and only comes in cherry, if Gibson.com is to be believed.
If it was me, I'd go for an SG Standard Limited in Cream (I'm a sucker for white guitars). The Limiteds got baked maple boards and are a wee bit cheaper than the standard Standard.
Pickups mostly.
The Standard got 490T and 498R pups, the 61 Reissue got 57 classics.
The 61 Reissue costs quite a bit more too and only comes in cherry, if Gibson.com is to be believed.
If it was me, I'd go for an SG Standard Limited in Cream (I'm a sucker for white guitars). The Limiteds got baked maple boards and are a wee bit cheaper than the standard Standard.
Edgecrusher
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Re: Sorry to re-hash: SG Std. vs. SG Reissue?
The neck joints are different. The reissue has the shorter neck joint the standard has the longer one. If you hold them side by side the body bevels are a tiny bit different too. Overall if i compare my 61 reissue from 2007 to my 2005 standard the reissue seems higher quality but exactly what is hard to quantify maybe the fit and finish is just better.
The neck joints are different. The reissue has the shorter neck joint the standard has the longer one. If you hold them side by side the body bevels are a tiny bit different too. Overall if i compare my 61 reissue from 2007 to my 2005 standard the reissue seems higher quality but exactly what is hard to quantify maybe the fit and finish is just better.
ItsaBass
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Re: Sorry to re-hash: SG Std. vs. SG Reissue?
Pickups, of course, and the neck joints might be different. Many different styles of neck joints have been used on SGs. I also believe that the binding of the '61 reissue is white, while it is cream on the Standards...or if that is not the exact difference that I remember, there is some sort if difference in the binding. It's also possible that the body contouring is different as well. The headstock size and shape may be different as well, and perhaps the headstock angles.
As usual, the reissue is actually a pretty piss-poor copy of an original Les Paul SG. Several things about it are not even close to the originals. Not that it's a bad guitar, just not really a reissue of anything that ever existed back in the Les Paul SG years.
P.S. Here are some shots showing a few different styles of SG neck joints, headstocks, and headstock transitions. On the left is a MIJ Epi Les Paul SG reissue; the neck joint of the Gibson '61 reissue is of a similar style (our ought to be, anyhow, if they got it right). In the middle is a '68 Standard, with the panhandle for attaching the neck, to give added strength. On the right is a '12 Faded Special. The neck joint is kind of a cross between the two styles to its left, and I also believe that the neck joint on this model is closest to a Standard.
High res: http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5035/6903936612_1b0699f6d7_k.jpg
High res: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7118/7050024559_97e7b4d7c6_k.jpg
High res: http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5327/6903930140_a25ab4a80e_k.jpg
Pickups, of course, and the neck joints might be different. Many different styles of neck joints have been used on SGs. I also believe that the binding of the '61 reissue is white, while it is cream on the Standards...or if that is not the exact difference that I remember, there is some sort if difference in the binding. It's also possible that the body contouring is different as well. The headstock size and shape may be different as well, and perhaps the headstock angles.
As usual, the reissue is actually a pretty piss-poor copy of an original Les Paul SG. Several things about it are not even close to the originals. Not that it's a bad guitar, just not really a reissue of anything that ever existed back in the Les Paul SG years.
P.S. Here are some shots showing a few different styles of SG neck joints, headstocks, and headstock transitions. On the left is a MIJ Epi Les Paul SG reissue; the neck joint of the Gibson '61 reissue is of a similar style (our ought to be, anyhow, if they got it right). In the middle is a '68 Standard, with the panhandle for attaching the neck, to give added strength. On the right is a '12 Faded Special. The neck joint is kind of a cross between the two styles to its left, and I also believe that the neck joint on this model is closest to a Standard.
High res: http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5035/6903936612_1b0699f6d7_k.jpg
High res: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7118/7050024559_97e7b4d7c6_k.jpg
High res: http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5327/6903930140_a25ab4a80e_k.jpg
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Edgecrusher
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Re: Sorry to re-hash: SG Std. vs. SG Reissue?
No the standards have the cream binding and the reissues have that crappy orangish "aged" binding. They also have the yellowed inlays.
No the standards have the cream binding and the reissues have that crappy orangish "aged" binding. They also have the yellowed inlays.
Edgecrusher
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Re: Sorry to re-hash: SG Std. vs. SG Reissue?
Yeah... They have a 60's slim on them, the standards now come with a fatter 50's profile but they havent always they used to have the 60's slim also.
Yeah... They have a 60's slim on them, the standards now come with a fatter 50's profile but they havent always they used to have the 60's slim also.
Bludave
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Dr. Vegetable
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Re: Sorry to re-hash: SG Std. vs. SG Reissue?
He hasn't treated us to the full story behind this senseless act of destruction. Enquiring minds want to know...
He hasn't treated us to the full story behind this senseless act of destruction. Enquiring minds want to know...
lex666
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Re: Sorry to re-hash: SG Std. vs. SG Reissue?
I was blacked out and dont remember much. I was told that during my recent suicide attempt, I was hurling anything I could find at anyone who tried to stop me. The SG was thrown and landed face down on the control knobs - folding back the lower section.
One of my new Martins got into it too. The beautiful rosewood back I paid dearly for now has a few dents in the shape of footswitches all in a row. It appears that my pedal board broke its fall.
I was blacked out and dont remember much. I was told that during my recent suicide attempt, I was hurling anything I could find at anyone who tried to stop me. The SG was thrown and landed face down on the control knobs - folding back the lower section.
One of my new Martins got into it too. The beautiful rosewood back I paid dearly for now has a few dents in the shape of footswitches all in a row. It appears that my pedal board broke its fall.
Ashurbanipal
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Re: Sorry to re-hash: SG Std. vs. SG Reissue?
Apart from what's been said, the '61 reissue now also comes with a Nashville bridge, like the Standard and Special. They switched from the ABR-1 a few years ago, now only Historic/VOS come with the latter.
ItsaBass, dig the MIJ Epi :cool2:.
Apart from what's been said, the '61 reissue now also comes with a Nashville bridge, like the Standard and Special. They switched from the ABR-1 a few years ago, now only Historic/VOS come with the latter.
ItsaBass, dig the MIJ Epi :cool2:.
ItsaBass
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Re: Sorry to re-hash: SG Std. vs. SG Reissue?
Wow. That's incredibly lame.
Thanks. I love that Epi, though I am considering selling it because it really doesn't do anything the '68 does not.
Wow. That's incredibly lame.
Thanks. I love that Epi, though I am considering selling it because it really doesn't do anything the '68 does not.
blueman335
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Re: Sorry to re-hash: SG Std. vs. SG Reissue?
Ah yes, Gibson's usual attention to detail. I've seen reissue '58 V's and Explorers with the 500T/496R set.
Ah yes, Gibson's usual attention to detail. I've seen reissue '58 V's and Explorers with the 500T/496R set.
Dr. Vegetable
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Re: Sorry to re-hash: SG Std. vs. SG Reissue?
I used to drink a lot. Tequila can do particularly strange things to the psyche sometimes. I put it down when I caught myself doing self-destructive acts in that haze on the edge of consciousness. Now I believe in doing all things in moderation, and I'm much happier for it. If you can learn this for yourself just by losing a couple of beloved guitars, you're way ahead of the game, IME.
Stay proud and strong. Play loud and long.
I used to drink a lot. Tequila can do particularly strange things to the psyche sometimes. I put it down when I caught myself doing self-destructive acts in that haze on the edge of consciousness. Now I believe in doing all things in moderation, and I'm much happier for it. If you can learn this for yourself just by losing a couple of beloved guitars, you're way ahead of the game, IME.
Stay proud and strong. Play loud and long.
