I just picked up an Ibanez guitar and whoever owned it before me had replaced the bridge p/u with a seymour duncan JBJ - I don't see it in the products list - what type (other than humbucker) pickup is this - i.e. what style does it work well for, high or low output, etc. When I plugged it in it did not seem as hot as the Ibanez p/u's in the other positions but than again it isn't set up very well yet. thanks in advance for any feedback.
SOS, please help with a pickup....
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Lewguitar
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Re: SOS, please help with a pickup....
All full size humbuckers are based on the '57 Gibson paf humbucker, which used an alnico 2 magnet and was wound to about 8000 ohms or "8K".
The JB uses an alnico 5 magnet, which Gibson switched to about 1959, and which has more bass and brighter highs and less mids than alnico 2....usually.
The JB is also wound to about 16.6K...much, much more copper wire around the two coils than an original '57 Gibson paf.
This gives it a much fatter, stronger, louder output and tone.
It is one of the strongest humbuckers on the market that still uses the original Gibson '57 humbucker look and design.
The first JB was made for Jeff Beck and used it on Cause We've Ended AsLovers, Freeway Jam and quite a few other classics.
Lew
All full size humbuckers are based on the '57 Gibson paf humbucker, which used an alnico 2 magnet and was wound to about 8000 ohms or "8K".
The JB uses an alnico 5 magnet, which Gibson switched to about 1959, and which has more bass and brighter highs and less mids than alnico 2....usually.
The JB is also wound to about 16.6K...much, much more copper wire around the two coils than an original '57 Gibson paf.
This gives it a much fatter, stronger, louder output and tone.
It is one of the strongest humbuckers on the market that still uses the original Gibson '57 humbucker look and design.
The first JB was made for Jeff Beck and used it on Cause We've Ended AsLovers, Freeway Jam and quite a few other classics.
Lew
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Re: SOS, please help with a pickup....
Lew I've seen a lot of your posts and was hoping you'd respond - you seem to have a real working knowledge of this stuff - helpful info - I love that song 'cause we've ended as lovers' - he and eric clapton do it live together although I can't remember what album thats on. Thanks again
Lew I've seen a lot of your posts and was hoping you'd respond - you seem to have a real working knowledge of this stuff - helpful info - I love that song 'cause we've ended as lovers' - he and eric clapton do it live together although I can't remember what album thats on. Thanks again
tone4days
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Re: SOS, please help with a pickup....
iirc, the tune 'Cause we've ended as lovers' also featured the Jazz neck pup prominently in addition to the JB ... there is a very cool moment ( i think it is in the second 'verse') where he audibly switches pickups and dramatically alters the momentum of the tune ... i think it is one of the most persuasive demonstrations of how tone changes (especially from one great tone to another) have musical impact
cheers,
t4d
iirc, the tune 'Cause we've ended as lovers' also featured the Jazz neck pup prominently in addition to the JB ... there is a very cool moment ( i think it is in the second 'verse') where he audibly switches pickups and dramatically alters the momentum of the tune ... i think it is one of the most persuasive demonstrations of how tone changes (especially from one great tone to another) have musical impact
cheers,
t4d
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Lewguitar
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Re: SOS, please help with a pickup....
Thank YOU! The JB is one of my very favorite pickups and I used one for many years in my Les Paul. I've kind of gone back to lower output pickups again, like the Seth Lover, Antiquity and 59B in recent months...but I still really like the JB...and the Custom Custom too. Like many of us, I just like to hear something differant for a while. Lew
take2 said:
Thank YOU! The JB is one of my very favorite pickups and I used one for many years in my Les Paul. I've kind of gone back to lower output pickups again, like the Seth Lover, Antiquity and 59B in recent months...but I still really like the JB...and the Custom Custom too. Like many of us, I just like to hear something differant for a while. Lew
korinastratkyle
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Re: SOS, please help with a pickup....
Actually there's less copper wire mass-wise . The original PAF humbuckers had around 5000 turns of 42 AWG, the JB has around 7000 winds of 44 AWG. The higher resistance come from the combination of the smaller wire and the longer length. It is still siignifigantly higher output with a different EQ Shape I'd have to say.
BTW, is it just me or are some of these smilies just a bit offensive? Such as :fing25: (not aimed at anyone!) and :damnit:
:bsflag:Lewguitar said:
Actually there's less copper wire mass-wise . The original PAF humbuckers had around 5000 turns of 42 AWG, the JB has around 7000 winds of 44 AWG. The higher resistance come from the combination of the smaller wire and the longer length. It is still siignifigantly higher output with a different EQ Shape I'd have to say.
BTW, is it just me or are some of these smilies just a bit offensive? Such as :fing25: (not aimed at anyone!) and :damnit:
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Lewguitar
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Re: SOS, please help with a pickup....
korinastratkyle said:
telemonster
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Re: SOS, please help with a pickup....
my friend has inherited a smashed up steinberg 'stick' guitar with 2 sd open coil buckers. one has a 'jbj' sticker on the back, the other has a 'dcj' sticker on the back. there is no other identification on them. i'm guessing jbj at the neck, dcj at the bridge? any ideas, anyone?
my friend has inherited a smashed up steinberg 'stick' guitar with 2 sd open coil buckers. one has a 'jbj' sticker on the back, the other has a 'dcj' sticker on the back. there is no other identification on them. i'm guessing jbj at the neck, dcj at the bridge? any ideas, anyone?
telemonster
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Re: SOS, please help with a pickup....
hi,
thanks for the welcome...and for the links. yeah, i put a search on google for seymour duncan jbj, and the link to this discussion came up in the results. ain't the internet a wonderful thing! i only realised after i'd registered and was about to post my own question how old the discussion was. glad you're still there!
i looked up the pickups following the link, and it says they're both reccomended for the bridge!
i think what my friend has in mind is to put one in his sg, and put the other back in the stick (probably at the bridge??) and also put his synth pickup on there.
BTW, he got the smashed stick from a friend, who's wife had caught him cheating...heh heh...hell hath no fury, as they say..
thanks again! :bigthumb:
hi,
thanks for the welcome...and for the links. yeah, i put a search on google for seymour duncan jbj, and the link to this discussion came up in the results. ain't the internet a wonderful thing! i only realised after i'd registered and was about to post my own question how old the discussion was. glad you're still there!
i looked up the pickups following the link, and it says they're both reccomended for the bridge!
i think what my friend has in mind is to put one in his sg, and put the other back in the stick (probably at the bridge??) and also put his synth pickup on there.
BTW, he got the smashed stick from a friend, who's wife had caught him cheating...heh heh...hell hath no fury, as they say..
thanks again! :bigthumb:
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