Source for double thick A8 mags?

[eclecticsynergy]

I found them for sale at Axes R Us but they're ridiculously overpriced. I just don't feel right paying $16.50 for a humbucker magnet.

Cermag Ltd has reasonably priced double thick A5s but they don't offer A8s.

AddictionFX, usually my go-to, doesn't carry double thickness mags.

Any suggestions?

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

I found a website that sells all types of magnets for scientific purposes a while back, I forgot exactly where it was, but I got a tax return and bought one of everything. They had 6 varieties of A5 alone, not even counting double thick and short bar. I'll have to find it for you, they were fairly cheap at ~$2 each.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

I found a website that sells all types of magnets for scientific purposes a while back, I forgot exactly where it was, but I got a tax return and bought one of everything. They had 6 varieties of A5 alone, not even counting double thick and short bar. I'll have to find it for you, they were fairly cheap at ~$2 each.

That'd be great. Thanks man!

 

[hamerfan]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

Any chance you can tell us the name the website or the company?

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

I looked it up on Google and after a page or two I found it. "HS magnets". It's changed a lot since I went their a few years back though. They don't have nearly the range they used to have, but they still have many different sizes of guitar sized magnets with options for polished, rough cast, and sand cast. I think they got rid of certain grades (5-7, 5 DG, 8B, etc) because no one wanted them. But they are still one of the few places that'll sell Alnico spacers and Alnico rods in all the major guitar grades.

 

[Davii]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

I've always wondered on HS's description of different alnico grades: http://www.hsmagnets.com/retrieve-pick-up-magnets/guitar-magnets/

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

Those are definitely way off.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

I looked it up on Google and after a page or two I found it. "HS magnets". It's changed a lot since I went their a few years back though. They don't have nearly the range they used to have, but they still have many different sizes of guitar sized magnets with options for polished, rough cast, and sand cast. I think they got rid of certain grades (5-7, 5 DG, 8B, etc) because no one wanted them. But they are still one of the few places that'll sell Alnico spacers and Alnico rods in all the major guitar grades.

I've always wondered on HS's description of different alnico grades: http://www.hsmagnets.com/retrieve-pick-up-magnets/guitar-magnets/

Those are definitely way off.

Those magnet descriptions are taken verbatim from ThroBak. I recognize them because he's the only one who describes A2s as being scooped, also he stocks UOA5s from two different foundries, in Illinois & Indiana. I find it very hard to believe a Chinese discount supplier would be sourcing premium mags from the US Midwest.

https://www.throbak.com/alnico-magnets.html

I think the photos may be lifted too; there used to be a page comparing ThroBak special order magnets side-by-side with vintage PAF mags, and those pics look mighty familiar.

Piracy aside, as far as I can tell HS's "oversized" A8 mags are 0.5" wide rather than their usual 0.492"; they all appear to be standard thickness, 0.125". Bar mag chart lower down on this page: http://www.hsmagnets.com/product/unpolished-rough-sand-cast-alnico-8-bar-humbucker-magnets/
I could be wrong- maybe there are other listings somewhere else on the website that I haven't been able to find? Hoping that is the case.
But if not, I appreciate the thought and effort anyway. Thanks, Christopher.

Meanwhile, I'm still on the hunt for double thick A8s at a reasonable price.

 

[majewsky]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

There is a company in Poland that makes custom magnets. I could write an email to them about minimum quantity, grades, size and other things that would be required for an order.

So... Please write me the dimensions and I will try to contact them. Maybe we coud get a new forum supplier

EDIT: Here's the link to their site, I do realize that I'm probably the only one around here speaking polish, but you could get the general idea from the table on the bottom of the page.
http://www.magnesy.pl/magnesy-alnico.html

 

[Davii]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

There is a company in Poland that makes custom magnets. I could write an email to them about minimum quantity, grades, size and other things that would be required for an order.

So... Please write me the dimensions and I will try to contact them. Maybe we coud get a new forum supplier

EDIT: Here's the link to their site, I do realize that I'm probably the only one around here speaking polish, but you could get the general idea from the table on the bottom of the page.
http://www.magnesy.pl/magnesy-alnico.html

I'd be interested in what sort of detail they come up with for orders

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

There is a company in Poland that makes custom magnets. I could write an email to them about minimum quantity, grades, size and other things that would be required for an order.

So... Please write me the dimensions and I will try to contact them. Maybe we coud get a new forum supplier

EDIT: Here's the link to their site, I do realize that I'm probably the only one around here speaking polish, but you could get the general idea from the table on the bottom of the page.
http://www.magnesy.pl/magnesy-alnico.html

Great suggestion, thanks.

Standard bars are 2.444'' long x 0.500'' wide x 0.125'' thick. I'm looking for the same thing, only .250" thick.
In metric I think that would be 62mm long x 12.5mm wide x 6.5mm thick (standard thickness is 3.2mm, I believe).

Preferably roughcast, but for me polished would be perfectly acceptable too.

The big question is whether they could provide these in small batches. I only need a couple and I imagine there's not a whole lot of demand for double thick mags. I think that those who like high output humbuckers are mostly metal players who are happy with the usual ceramics.

Maybe we here could collectively generate enough demand for a dozen or so, but I doubt we would want more than that. Unless we could get a supplier like AddictionFX on board...

 

[cermag]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

We can supply 2 of HB AL8 bonded together and remagnetised to perform as 1 solid magnet. See below link.

If enough people demand as 1 solid piece we will start producing and putting into stock.

http://www.cermagmagnets.co.uk/alnico-bars-for-hb-double-width---62mm-x-65mm-x-125mm-39-p.asp

Please have a look around the shop. any comments welcome

 

[hamerfan]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

We can supply 2 of HB AL8 bonded together and remagnetised to perform as 1 solid magnet. See below link.

If enough people demand as 1 solid piece we will start producing and putting into stock.

http://www.cermagmagnets.co.uk/alnico-bars-for-hb-double-width---62mm-x-65mm-x-125mm-39-p.asp

Please have a look around the shop. any comments welcome

Hey, thats a great piece of information. Bonding and remagnetizing. Didn't know this.
I did order at cermag some time ago. Good stuff and fast shipping. Keep on, guys.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

Very curious...What do you expect to be the difference between a regular sized A8 and a double thick A8?

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

Very curious...What do you expect to be the difference between a regular sized A8 and a double thick A8?

It's about the difference between A3 and A2. There's a downward shift of the eq and a boost in output, but the tone is similar.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

Doesn't seem like there would be enough difference between an A8 and a double thick A8 to make it worth all of the trouble to buy them.

 

[PicoRiveraTele]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

Why not stack two regular sized A8s?

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

Why not stack two regular sized A8s?

Because they would either be out of phase or one would be using all it's energy to repel the other one instead of inducting a current, depending on how they are oriented with each other.

 

[PicoRiveraTele]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

Because they would either be out of phase or one would be using all it's energy to repel the other one instead of inducting a current, depending on how they are oriented with each other.

Magnets don't use up energy repelling each other, at least no more so than they do in their solid form. You will have to force them together in the way they don't naturally want to be, with both poles side by side instead of opposite ends of each other, but you have to deal with the same sort of thing when you stick two bar magnets into a P-90. You can either glue them together so that they stay that way indefinitely, or just use the pickup's housing to double as a clamp to hold the magnets in place.

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Source for double thick A8 mags?

Magnets don't use up energy repelling each other, at least no more so than they do in their solid form. You will have to force them together in the way they don't naturally want to be, with both poles side by side instead of opposite ends of each other, but you have to deal with the same sort of thing when you stick two bar magnets into a P-90. You can either glue them together so that they stay that way indefinitely, or just use the pickup's housing to double as a clamp to hold the magnets in place.

If you want to experiment you can simply attach the second magnet to the baseplate so that it attracts. After you test this out you can do the same thing by taping it down so that it stays in position when it repels the other magnet. There are also plenty of other threads on this forum talking about the same subject.