Squier Guitars ???
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kaknight
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Re: Squier Guitars ???
I think that if they are all you can afford, they are pretty alright. the thing is that, unlike even the mexicasters, they are made of plywood. and that stuff doesn't necessarily age very well. It might not be a concern, but it might be. My buddy has a squire and after about 10 years the woods have changed enough that you can now see the lines where the different hunks of wood have been put together. each board has shrunk different amounts. If you can afford to push yourself for another $50 or so, I'd get a Fender MIM. They are a better starting point for tone tinkering
I think that if they are all you can afford, they are pretty alright. the thing is that, unlike even the mexicasters, they are made of plywood. and that stuff doesn't necessarily age very well. It might not be a concern, but it might be. My buddy has a squire and after about 10 years the woods have changed enough that you can now see the lines where the different hunks of wood have been put together. each board has shrunk different amounts. If you can afford to push yourself for another $50 or so, I'd get a Fender MIM. They are a better starting point for tone tinkering
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RACER X
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Say bro, I bought a Bullet special about a year ago, you know the single humbucker Strat, anyways, I put a DD in it & some Schaller locking tuners, I s*#t you not that guitar rocked. So figure, 100 bucks for the guitar, 70 for the p/u, and 60 for the tuners. So 230 bucks and no stock 2 - 300 Jackson or Ibanez could touch it, well tone wise not quality.
Say bro, I bought a Bullet special about a year ago, you know the single humbucker Strat, anyways, I put a DD in it & some Schaller locking tuners, I s*#t you not that guitar rocked. So figure, 100 bucks for the guitar, 70 for the p/u, and 60 for the tuners. So 230 bucks and no stock 2 - 300 Jackson or Ibanez could touch it, well tone wise not quality.
Fresh_Start
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If you can find one with good tone, a comfortable neck, and (relatively) good fretwork, a Squier can be a good deal. Sure they're made out of multiple pieces of "agathis", but the finish is so thick they might as well be all plastic anyway.
My daughter's doesn't sound half bad with StewMac pups in it, but the neck is a nightmare 'coz the truss rod won't adjust enough to flatten out the neck.
Chip
If you can find one with good tone, a comfortable neck, and (relatively) good fretwork, a Squier can be a good deal. Sure they're made out of multiple pieces of "agathis", but the finish is so thick they might as well be all plastic anyway.
My daughter's doesn't sound half bad with StewMac pups in it, but the neck is a nightmare 'coz the truss rod won't adjust enough to flatten out the neck.
Chip
italic zero
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Re: Squier Guitars ???
You'd be much better off getting something from rondo, or even a yamaha or a peavey.
You'd be much better off getting something from rondo, or even a yamaha or a peavey.
kmcguitars
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Xerxes, Pretty much sums it up !! NOT ALL SQUIRE'S ARE CREATED EQUAL !!
The 1st batch to come outta Japan Are the gems. That is the SQ series from 83'
to 84' then the E series 85' and on. After that it's a shot in the dark? The old
Squire's can still be had for around $300 on ebay,But people are getting wise
about these's Gems ,And the price's are going up. They are even becoming collectable? I have 4 SQ Squire's. Just rip the PuPs out, Put in a set of Duncans, And you have a top notch Guitar.
xerxes said:
Xerxes, Pretty much sums it up !! NOT ALL SQUIRE'S ARE CREATED EQUAL !!
The 1st batch to come outta Japan Are the gems. That is the SQ series from 83'
to 84' then the E series 85' and on. After that it's a shot in the dark? The old
Squire's can still be had for around $300 on ebay,But people are getting wise
about these's Gems ,And the price's are going up. They are even becoming collectable? I have 4 SQ Squire's. Just rip the PuPs out, Put in a set of Duncans, And you have a top notch Guitar.
Hot _Grits
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Yeah, the Squier to get is the original, 70s style gumby headstock strat from the early 80s. As good as any production US strat built since, and better than the guitars they copied them from.
kmcguitars said:Xerxes, Pretty much sums it up !! NOT ALL SQUIRE'S ARE CREATED EQUAL !!
The 1st batch to come outta Japan Are the gems. That is the SQ series from 83'
to 84' then the E series 85' and on. After that it's a shot in the dark? The old
Squire's can still be had for around $300 on ebay,But people are getting wise
about these's Gems ,And the price's are going up. They are even becoming collectable? I have 4 SQ Squire's. Just rip the PuPs out, Put in a set of Duncans, And you have a top notch Guitar.
Yeah, the Squier to get is the original, 70s style gumby headstock strat from the early 80s. As good as any production US strat built since, and better than the guitars they copied them from.
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Lewguitar
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Forget about today's Squires, and look for an 80's, made in Japan, Fender Squire. All you'll need to do is swap the pickups. Everything else, tuners, bridge, pots, are usually already first rate. Lew
Forget about today's Squires, and look for an 80's, made in Japan, Fender Squire. All you'll need to do is swap the pickups. Everything else, tuners, bridge, pots, are usually already first rate. Lew
kmcguitars
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:usa2:
O.K. Here's one for you conspearicy buffs... Those early 80's large headstock
Squire's may be Made in U.S.A. N.O.S. shipped to japan for assembly??
1) Why would the japs retool for large headstocks?? 2) The fender Exec.'s
knew they where going to buy the Co. from C.B.S. So why not ship some
parts over to japan ( to hide them from the auditer) B4 you close the deal :deal: ??
3) Once you own the co.ship them back to the U.S. It's all proft!! 4) The
Necks on them Squire's are dead on ! So close, Maybe there NOT copies??
Things that make ya go Hmmmm..... Call me crazy :11: But I'm
not the only one who thinks this. :usa2: :scratchch
:usa2:
Hot _Grits said:
O.K. Here's one for you conspearicy buffs... Those early 80's large headstock
Squire's may be Made in U.S.A. N.O.S. shipped to japan for assembly??
1) Why would the japs retool for large headstocks?? 2) The fender Exec.'s
knew they where going to buy the Co. from C.B.S. So why not ship some
parts over to japan ( to hide them from the auditer) B4 you close the deal :deal: ??
3) Once you own the co.ship them back to the U.S. It's all proft!! 4) The
Necks on them Squire's are dead on ! So close, Maybe there NOT copies??
Things that make ya go Hmmmm..... Call me crazy :11: But I'm
not the only one who thinks this. :usa2: :scratchch
Norman_T
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Re: Squier Guitars ???
If you are going to buy one of these Squiers and do all that work then it seems a waste of money and I agree with what some guys have said about getting a better quality MIM or even a MIJ strat. However you might also want to consider a Yamaha Pacifica (strat) style guitar - S/S/H - one of the kids that I teach bought this the other day and it was a package deal where you got an amp, lead case etc. This was really very nice to play and was perfectly OK. I mean I even tried it through a Marshall stack and made some nice juicy sounds. Price was £149 ($260 approx), but you will probably be able to get it cheaper.
If you are going to buy one of these Squiers and do all that work then it seems a waste of money and I agree with what some guys have said about getting a better quality MIM or even a MIJ strat. However you might also want to consider a Yamaha Pacifica (strat) style guitar - S/S/H - one of the kids that I teach bought this the other day and it was a package deal where you got an amp, lead case etc. This was really very nice to play and was perfectly OK. I mean I even tried it through a Marshall stack and made some nice juicy sounds. Price was £149 ($260 approx), but you will probably be able to get it cheaper.
Nightburst
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What about the new esquiers? These look tempting:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7...tar/s=electric/search/detail/base_pid/511241/
What about the new esquiers? These look tempting:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7...tar/s=electric/search/detail/base_pid/511241/
coolguitardude123
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iagree go for the Fender standerd strat better quility and by the time ya put new pu etc it would probably cost as much just buying a Fender standerd or mexican strat.
iagree go for the Fender standerd strat better quility and by the time ya put new pu etc it would probably cost as much just buying a Fender standerd or mexican strat.
Norman_T
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https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=1782
FYI - Jeff_H got himself one of those Highway strats for $359 from GC and I think he said that if someone else wanted one he could perhaps help out? Check the thread which I think is titled "So I did'nt get the hardtail BUT.." or see the link below:Norman_T said:
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=1782
Musically Mr M
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:lol: Where do people get these "facts"from? I've got a 95 MIM Squier Fat Strat and a 96 MIK (Cort) Squier. I've invested some good money in SD Alnico II's in both as well as Grover Mini Lockers to keep then in tune. I dare you to compare the quality of either one to a Mex Strat (Standard or Hot Rodded), Hwy 1's or even a few bad Americans I've played. These Squiers are the real deal and no plywood or Agathis. Both have 2 piece Alder bodies and maple necks that are just like butter. The only trade off was the hardware/electronics...which weren't to bad in the beginning but to get the price point where it is, you've got to cut corners. Have you ever had any experience with the "Protones" or the 80's JV Series Squiers? There was very little scrimping the details on these at all. These were legitimate Strats-solid performers and there are a lot of professional performers in the industry playing them. It kind of gets my goat just a bit when the un-informed post untrue, unsubstantiated statements about perfectly good gear that they've never even picked up. Squiers are great guitars for any playing level at a price that won't cause you to have to mortgage your home. I guess thats why there are so many sold annually, huh?
:lol: Where do people get these "facts"from? I've got a 95 MIM Squier Fat Strat and a 96 MIK (Cort) Squier. I've invested some good money in SD Alnico II's in both as well as Grover Mini Lockers to keep then in tune. I dare you to compare the quality of either one to a Mex Strat (Standard or Hot Rodded), Hwy 1's or even a few bad Americans I've played. These Squiers are the real deal and no plywood or Agathis. Both have 2 piece Alder bodies and maple necks that are just like butter. The only trade off was the hardware/electronics...which weren't to bad in the beginning but to get the price point where it is, you've got to cut corners.
Have you ever had any experience with the "Protones" or the 80's JV Series Squiers? There was very little scrimping the details on these at all. These were legitimate Strats-solid performers and there are a lot of professional performers in the industry playing them. It kind of gets my goat just a bit when the un-informed post untrue, unsubstantiated statements about perfectly good gear that they've never even picked up. Squiers are great guitars for any playing level at a price that won't cause you to have to mortgage your home. I guess thats why there are so many sold annually, huh?
Wonker
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I've played ok Squier Guitars and I've played bad Squier Guitars.
We got one of these in the store last week it plays great
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Squier-FSR-Standard-Stratocaster-HSS-Electric-Guitar-881660-i1473752.gc
Needs a better pickup really bad, but other than that it's fine.
I've played ok Squier Guitars and I've played bad Squier Guitars.
We got one of these in the store last week it plays great
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Squier-FSR-Standard-Stratocaster-HSS-Electric-Guitar-881660-i1473752.gc
Needs a better pickup really bad, but other than that it's fine.
