Would that concept work? I may be willing to make one if I buy a stag mag. Curious on taking the coil of a Stag Mag and a coil of a 59 and making a hybrid. The Stag Mag has A2 rods but in making the hybrid we'd have to place a bar magnet like the A5 underneath also. Would this feasibly work? I wonder what it would sound like. Or would a better concept be to just take 2 of the 5-2 single coils (SSL52-1) and place them together and wire for series/split. If the 2 coils were placed so that there is an A2 and A5 under each string. If I try it and it works I want to try wiring 2 lipstick tubes in series:naughty:
Stag Mag/59 Hybrid
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BachToRock
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Re: Stag Mag/59 Hybrid
Actually, you would just put the rod magnets into the slug coil of the 59 to make a hybrid... I have been wanting to do this for a while myself! Combining a bar magnet with the rod magnets would create a magnetic conflict of interest.
I HAVE done the 2 lipstick setup and it is very cool sounding... I had them wired up to a series-split-parallel switch...
Actually, you would just put the rod magnets into the slug coil of the 59 to make a hybrid... I have been wanting to do this for a while myself! Combining a bar magnet with the rod magnets would create a magnetic conflict of interest.
I HAVE done the 2 lipstick setup and it is very cool sounding... I had them wired up to a series-split-parallel switch...
frankfalbo
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Re: Stag Mag/59 Hybrid
There's a guy on a different forum that puts rod magnets into one of the IBZUSA coils. I told him he'd have the magnetic conflict, but he said it sounded great. It's possible that because he uses short magnets from a stack pickup, the magnets don't protrude at all through the bottom of the coil. So they're kind of "above and to the left" of the bar magnet. Still, there has to be some interaction. I'd say the best way is to put half-sized magnets on either side of the screw coil, or have a half sized magnet that was a little thicker, and could match the power/reliability of the full bar just to one coil.
There's a guy on a different forum that puts rod magnets into one of the IBZUSA coils. I told him he'd have the magnetic conflict, but he said it sounded great. It's possible that because he uses short magnets from a stack pickup, the magnets don't protrude at all through the bottom of the coil. So they're kind of "above and to the left" of the bar magnet. Still, there has to be some interaction. I'd say the best way is to put half-sized magnets on either side of the screw coil, or have a half sized magnet that was a little thicker, and could match the power/reliability of the full bar just to one coil.
Re: Stag Mag/59 Hybrid
That'd be me. I think the interaction is pretty tame by the time the fields interact with the strings or winds. In fact, even when I put small Neodymium mags underneath A5 poles the effect wasn't much. I'd love to see some detailed gauss readings or FEMM diagrams like SK has at
http://www.ampge.com/SKGS/sk/Images/pickups/Pickup stuff/Magnetics.htm
on this type of interaction. Anyway, I did it my way because that's what I had, and it seems to work pretty well; ideally you'd isolate them. Small mags like Frank mentions (like the side mags in an Invader) would be a good bet if you can get 'em.
That'd be me. I think the interaction is pretty tame by the time the fields interact with the strings or winds. In fact, even when I put small Neodymium mags underneath A5 poles the effect wasn't much. I'd love to see some detailed gauss readings or FEMM diagrams like SK has at
http://www.ampge.com/SKGS/sk/Images/pickups/Pickup stuff/Magnetics.htm
on this type of interaction. Anyway, I did it my way because that's what I had, and it seems to work pretty well; ideally you'd isolate them. Small mags like Frank mentions (like the side mags in an Invader) would be a good bet if you can get 'em.
Fusion1
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Re: Stag Mag/59 Hybrid
FWIW, on older Westone humbuckers the slug pole pieces are rod magnets. Guessing they are A2 rods as that seems to be the more common (are there even A5 rods?) rod magnet. I haven't done a hybrid with it or even checked to see if there was a bar magnet under the bobbins but I would guess there would have to be as I changed the screw poles and they weren't magnetized.
FWIW, on older Westone humbuckers the slug pole pieces are rod magnets. Guessing they are A2 rods as that seems to be the more common (are there even A5 rods?) rod magnet. I haven't done a hybrid with it or even checked to see if there was a bar magnet under the bobbins but I would guess there would have to be as I changed the screw poles and they weren't magnetized.
Re: Stag Mag/59 Hybrid
I actually have an Invader-bridge. May I could use that. I still need to get a Stag Mag though. The lipstick-bucker I'd like to hear too, but with 2 DIFFERENT MAGS. The whole idea of all these hybrids is to hear how different mags would sound due to diff field strengths...
Jester700 said:
I actually have an Invader-bridge. May I could use that. I still need to get a Stag Mag though. The lipstick-bucker I'd like to hear too, but with 2 DIFFERENT MAGS. The whole idea of all these hybrids is to hear how different mags would sound due to diff field strengths...
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revolution
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Re: Stag Mag/59 Hybrid
I'd use a hotter wind like a C5. Wow...A5 bar and A2 rods...how cool. I'd like to hear some sound samples of that. Probably be a cool neck p'up too. Faraday's Half Invader and Half Stag idea sounds way cool too!
I'd use a hotter wind like a C5. Wow...A5 bar and A2 rods...how cool. I'd like to hear some sound samples of that. Probably be a cool neck p'up too. Faraday's Half Invader and Half Stag idea sounds way cool too!
sufferinrewind
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Re: Stag Mag/59 Hybrid
You can get rod magnets here if you just want to take out the steel slugs and replace them with rod magnets.
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Pickups:_Parts/4/Single-coil_Pickup_Parts.html
Unless you want to use the A2 magnets. There are other places where you can get A2 rod magnets, I just don't know where. I'm sure someone here could tell you. I think that'd be easier to do, plus you also have the option for a flat stagger, or whatever kind of stagger if you just bought the A2 rods instead of buying the Stag Mag. You could buy all longer magnets to get more output from that coil, and such. It opens up more options and saves you from having to pay $70 or so to buy a Stag Mag just to tear it up.
You can get rod magnets here if you just want to take out the steel slugs and replace them with rod magnets.
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Pickups:_Parts/4/Single-coil_Pickup_Parts.html
Unless you want to use the A2 magnets. There are other places where you can get A2 rod magnets, I just don't know where. I'm sure someone here could tell you. I think that'd be easier to do, plus you also have the option for a flat stagger, or whatever kind of stagger if you just bought the A2 rods instead of buying the Stag Mag. You could buy all longer magnets to get more output from that coil, and such. It opens up more options and saves you from having to pay $70 or so to buy a Stag Mag just to tear it up.
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