I have used both of these preamps fairly extensively on my own equipment, but no more. I love their sound, but I am tired of having a 2 hour mod take 2 days because of having to stop to repair the thin, brittle, low-quality wire Seymour Duncan uses in these preamps. My last project is still in the project stage because twice I had to stop to mend a broken wire at the circuit board. On the second break, I just pulled the preamp out of the bass, took it outside, and threw it in the dumpster where it belongs. Then I went online and ordered a replacement from a competitor--one which is more expensive but whose wires I know are of a better quality. I am experienced at guitar and bass wiring, and I have none of these problems with other companies' components. I've been thinking of buying an NYC Soapbar and maybe a set of P-90 pickups for some future projects from Seymour Duncan, but I have to ask, do they use the same lousy wire on all their stuff? If so, I'm looking elsewhere.