Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dollar?

[ThisDyingSoul76]

I'm interested in a stereo rig. I have a second amp and tried using the 2 outputs on my delay pedals but they are wet/dry and all I get from the second amp are the repeats.

I thought about using an ABY, at least that way I get the blended tone of the 2 amps but it is still wet/dry with all effects through A single amp or divided between the amps.

It's seems most "stereo" chorus or flanger pedals and such seem to actually be wet/dry.

Is there a true stereo modulation effect in pedal form that does not cost much more than $200? What about TC Electronics' Vortex or Corona pedals?

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

A chorus is simply a vibratoed signal (using a modulated delay line) overlaid on top of a dry signal. Flanger is similar with shorter delay and regeneration. Basically a stereo chorus or flanger will pretty much always be dry + signal, but that can give you a huge stereo spread. For delays, you'll want ping pong style, so the echoes go back and forth. Stereo reverbs are usually pretty expansive too. The old Line 6 Echo Park and Verbzilla did the stereo thing pretty well. They might be cheap now.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

If you can get past cost and think in terms of awesome, get a Strymon Lex rotary pedal. Besides splitting into stereo, one amp will be a spinning speaker, while the second amp is a spinning horn. There's no stereo image that sounds more awesome in my opinion.

 

[ThisDyingSoul76]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

So, with Stereo chorus or flanger, it really makes no difference in sound than if I use an ABY and connect the chorus to one one amp in a wet dry configuration vs using the pedal to split the signal.

When the chorus is connected by its stereo outputs, does the signal to the second amp get cut in bypass mode like when using the wet/dry out of a delay pedal or does it pass the unaffected signal to the amp?

Reason I ask is when I'm not running effects, I want to blend the tones from the 2 different amps. For now, I'm accomplishing this using a delay pedal on all the to
time with the delay time and repeats set to their minimum settings; but wondered if there was a chorus or flanger that actually panned the effect left and right and didn't cut signal to the second output when bypassed.

Maybe an ABY is the way to go and just connect my effects in mono to one of the amps in a typical wet/dry and see how that goes.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

You can check out a Line 6 M5 or M9, which does stereo modulation really well, and should be found in your price range.

 

[Hank-]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

I have the ehx stereo mistress. I found that one to be proper stereo out sound, awesome swirl effect & spread - kinda 3D thing going on, infact after trying out the thing in stereo I don't use it anymore, sounds lame going mono with it which is how I normally setup. Only problem I see is that it lacks stereo inputs.

I haven't checked the corona manual but it might be true stereo & not wet/dry. Visual sound liquid chorus was true stereo too I think. Apart, from these the zoom ms70cdr has some wide selection of chorus models & other stuff.

 

[MakerDP]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

If you are looking to simply blend the tones of the two amps and are not after a "stereo effect" then you just want a quality transformer-isolated ABY pedal at the very end of your chain. The transformer isolation will eliminate any nasty ground loop issues that often arise when using two amps with one guitar.

Of course, you can also run pedals after the ABY split so each amp has it's own effect.

 

[ThisDyingSoul76]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

I'm kinda looking for both as the ideal setup. The ABY option is a compromise at this point. Ideally, I want the stereo sound when the effect is engaged and when it is bypassed I want both amps at the same time. Everything I have at home if have looked at online that has stereo outs cuts the signal to one of the amps when bypassed.

I thought about the ABY but it's pretty much a compromise. I have noticed the hum from the Amos is really bad though so I may have to go that route. I'm used to some noise in my signal because of the wiring in my house and considered getting a power supply with EMF and RMF filtering to see if that helps. Getting an electrician to rip the wiring out on the second floor and update it is not an option right now.

 

[MakerDP]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

Well maybe your best bet is to go with a dedicated guitar rack effects unit and then you can assign stuff to whatever output L or R or mix you want and switch with a MIDI pedalboard.

Not a cheap route to go though.

 

[Liko]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

I'm interested in a stereo rig. I have a second amp and tried using the 2 outputs on my delay pedals but they are wet/dry and all I get from the second amp are the repeats.

I thought about using an ABY, at least that way I get the blended tone of the 2 amps but it is still wet/dry with all effects through A single amp or divided between the amps.

It's seems most "stereo" chorus or flanger pedals and such seem to actually be wet/dry.

Is there a true stereo modulation effect in pedal form that does not cost much more than $200? What about TC Electronics' Vortex or Corona pedals?

Digitech Hardwire CR-7 Stereo Chorus. This pedal has stereo ins and outs unlike a lot of chorus effects, so it doesn't have to be the start of your stereo chain, and all its models in stereo mode are a "double mix"; two independently-modulated wet/dry signal mixes, with the rate and depth also determining relative differences between the two channel' modulation for added stereo imaging. This pedal's discontinued but not all that long ago, so it's not a real collector's item, and it sells for between $90 and $150 depending on condition and seller (their street price was about $140 new). You can listen to a demo in full stereo here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZr91ecruIE

Only downside is it's DSP, not an analog effect, which some people prefer. If it doesn't matter to you, snap one of these up on Reverb.

 

[ThisDyingSoul76]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

Not terribly interested in rack units either. Sounds are not bad, but I prefer the tweakability of pedals. I'm looking into programable pedal switchers though. They seem to be the way to go. I get to keep my rig pedal based and tweakable and the ease of switching of a rack unit.

Joyo seems to be making a few really versatile switchers for a reasonable amount of money.

 

[Rich_S]

Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dollar?

I have a Zoom MS-50G with stereo outputs. A bunch of its models are stereo, so you can try a bunch of different ways to stereo-ize your signal: chorus, ping-pong, stereo delays. It's a good Swiss-army pedal. I recently used its stereo chorus to build a convincing Jamie West-Oram rig. Massive sound.


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[pyannaman01]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

Hi
I own a Fender Mustang Floor unit... True stereo out ..push a sw and get separate efx like in stomp box .. All in one unit able to turn efx off for clean sound ...run into the clean ch on both amps...use the Mustang for patches...works for me
GL


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[IMENATOR]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

I'm interested in a stereo rig. I have a second amp and tried using the 2 outputs on my delay pedals but they are wet/dry and all I get from the second amp are the repeats.

I thought about using an ABY, at least that way I get the blended tone of the 2 amps but it is still wet/dry with all effects through A single amp or divided between the amps.

It's seems most "stereo" chorus or flanger pedals and such seem to actually be wet/dry.

Is there a true stereo modulation effect in pedal form that does not cost much more than $200? What about TC Electronics' Vortex or Corona pedals?

Also the truetone h2o, the echo side is mono but the chorus side is stereo with modulation on both L-R. Also the Zoom 70CDR is quite affordable and has lots of options to get you started with stereo effects. However I would say I am also interested in a variation of the wet/dry which is a dry amp and then your mono pedals into a second amp, this second amp would have both the effect and the original sound blended together to make for the stereo feel while to dry amp to keep the note definition and attack which can be lost a bit among the FX sounds. This way you can buy use affordable mono pedals an still have a big sound. On the other hand, ping pong delay is really fun.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

The classic chorus sound is essentially wet/dry. Later on, chorus was mixed essentially with some panning for more swirl. I know great multieffects can do this, but not many pedals out there, as most are designed for the wet/dry thing.

 

[skyydogg01]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

Look at some old DOD pedals. I know my old Stereo Flanger did it (FX-75C).

 

[Obsessive Compulsive]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

I always thought my DOD FX68 Stereo Chorus was a true stereo until I saw this post.

I have a Zoom MS70 CDR with stereo ins and outs, but I never try using it with 2 amps. You might want to check it out, it's only 100 bucks.

 

[Johnny the Kid]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

You can check out a Line 6 M5 or M9, which does stereo modulation really well, and should be found in your price range.

I second this. Or if you just need a modulation pedal, get the MM4.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

IThe DOD Pedal I had contained 2 distinct chorus circuits, and was called the Stereo Turbo Chorus. You might take a look at the Digitech Chorus Factory, which has a bunch of modeled boxes on it- it might have true stereo swirls on it.

 

[baritone]

Re: Stereo pedals that are more than just wet/dry that don't cost several hundred dol

It sounds like what you want is dual amp but mono sound. You can do this by running all your effects in mono & placing an ABY box at the end of your effect chain.

When using 2 amps, I always preferred to use a stereo effect, such as chorus, to split the signal.