Steve Clark settings?

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Steve Clark settings?

I have no idea what the pickups were or the amp settings but any number of humbucking pickups and higher gain amp can and will get those tones...nothing really special to be honest.

As for 59's...I find them a great pickup in a lot of guitars but if for some reason you find Classic 57's too bassy stay away from 59's...

That said if someone is trying to compare pickups in 2 guitars as different as a Strat and a Les Paul they are pissing in the wind...that is truly a waste of time.

 

[Christopher Caruana]

Re: Steve Clark settings?

I have no idea what the pickups were or the amp settings but any number of humbucking pickups and higher gain amp can and will get those tones...nothing really special to be honest.

As for 59's...I find them a great pickup in a lot of guitars but if for some reason you find Classic 57's too bassy stay away from 59's...

That said if someone is trying to compare pickups in 2 guitars as different as a Strat and a Les Paul they are pissing in the wind...that is truly a waste of time.

I think the real problem might be my amp. The Valveking I own is pretty dark and warm sounding already; I had to turn it down to 2 with the '57 classic. Then with the bass so low my sound was just very thin. I might get a different result if I was playing through a bright(er) amp like a Marshall or a Fender. And with the LP being a warmer sounding guitar already, I was kinda up sh*t creek without a paddle.

i still have the '57 (and my LP), so when the day comes for me to get a better amp (im shooting for a high end Marshall) I might give it a try again

 

[ErikH]

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That said if someone is trying to compare pickups in 2 guitars as different as a Strat and a Les Paul they are pissing in the wind...that is truly a waste of time.

I wasn't comparing, just sharing my experience with said pickup.

Perhaps I should have added on that my bandmate has a Les Paul Classic with '57 Classics in it and the neck position isn't bassy at all. I've played it through his rig and mine with the same results.

 

[Christopher Caruana]

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I wasn't comparing, just sharing my experience with said pickup.

Perhaps I should have added on that my bandmate has a Les Paul Classic with '57 Classics in it and the neck position isn't bassy at all. I've played it through his rig and mine with the same results.

What amp is he running through? Like I said before, My valveking is pretty boomy in itself to begin with. The AlnicoIIPro's I have now are even i hair on the boomy side when plaing clean.

 

[ErikH]

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What amp is he running through? Like I said before, My valveking is pretty boomy in itself to begin with. The AlnicoIIPro's I have now are even i hair on the boomy side when plaing clean.

At that time, I want to say it was either Marshalls or Randalls. I know that both he and Phil both used Randalls a lot but I'm not for certain if they were still using them in Hysteria or not.

 

[Diocletian]

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Weren't they using that Rockman thing? I believe they used Marshalls at that point, but the sound on the album was all the Rockman.

I have no clue what any of that means, but I've read a lot about it, and that's what I gots!

 

[Hot _Grits]

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Yep, it was rockman gear on hysteria. forget about amps if you want that tone.

 

[Christopher Caruana]

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Yep, it was rockman gear on hysteria. forget about amps if you want that tone.

what's a rockman?

 

[Hot _Grits]

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what's a rockman?

It's a solid state guitar preamp that was VERY popular in the 80s. Tom Scholz, guitar player/leader of the band Boston created them, and eventually developed a huge range of products, but the initial rockmans were small rectangular boxes that looked like black 80s-era walkmans.

They became popular as a headphone practice amp and especially as a way for anyone to record direct (we're talking 80s here: no sansamps, no pods, no plugins). They were so heavily used that the 'rockman sound' became a major cliche. The crystal-clean chorus setting and the overdriven setting in particular are all over 80s-era records.

In addition to 'hysteria' the rockman is all over Joe Satriani's 'surfing with the alien' and was used by Jeff Beck for 'people get ready'. And if you heard lead guitar on an infomercial or a porn soundtrack back in the day you would be hearing a rockman. it is widely thought that the horrid overdrive tones on ZZ Top's 'eliminator' album is a rockman too, and it sounds like it to me, though it appears a solid state 'legend' amp was responsible for that 'tone'.

Personally I think they are f*cking horrible things. But hey, that's the sound of 'hysteria' if you want it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockman_(amplifier)

 

[Aceman]

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You can get Hysteria sound from any PAF style with a monster chorus, delay and reverb. Those tones are wet wet wet!

No classic 57's back then? I'm getting old. Then again, my last stock Gibson pup was a T-top. I still say throw a 59 in there and go to work on the fx settings. I use the 5150 model for Hysteria era Lepp.