Stevie Ray Vaughan question

[Gypsyblue]

When Reese joined the band on B3 organ did SRV and Tommy continue tuning down 1/2 step? That would sure make it tough on a keyboard player who couldn't detune his instrument 1/2 step. Everything SRV fingered as if it were in E would have to be fingered in E flat by a keyboard player. With a synth it wouldn't be a big deal - just detune 1/2 step. But with a Hammond B3 organ I'm not sure that's even possible.

 

[Bludave]

Re: Stevie Ray Vaughan question

Any good musician can play in "closed" keys. E flat is just moving your hands over. SRV did it because it made singing easier, so I am going to say he continued to play tuned down a half step but to be honest with you I would have to listen to some songs with my guitar in hand to confirm it.

 

[SlyFoxx]

Re: Stevie Ray Vaughan question

Keys like F, Eb, Ab, Bb don't bother piano players like they do guitar players. On piano no one key signature is really any harder to use than the next.

 

[jeremy]

Re: Stevie Ray Vaughan question

pretty sure it was always tuned down a half step

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Stevie Ray Vaughan question

Any good musician can play in "closed" keys. E flat is just moving your hands over. SRV did it because it made singing easier, so I am going to say he continued to play tuned down a half step but to be honest with you I would have to listen to some songs with my guitar in hand to confirm it.

I Know SRV had some strong hands and fingers,but don't forget some blues players or guys that bend alot,benefit from bigger tone,heavier string gauges and it's easier to bend those strings with less overall string tension...

We do everything in standard tuning...If the vocals aren't happening,we just pick stuff that "can" be sang... ;o)

 

[Boogie Bill]

Re: Stevie Ray Vaughan question

Easier to play in Eb for a keyboardist than in E.

Bill

 

[blueman335]

Re: Stevie Ray Vaughan question

Keys like F, Eb, Ab, Bb don't bother piano players like they do guitar players.

Ab and Bb are two of my favorite keys. :cool2:

 

[Lazarus1140]

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Ab and Bb are two of my favorite keys. :cool2:

That's blues man.

All B3 players I've played with, and there have been several, prefer Bb.

 

[Petrovsk Mizinski]

Re: Stevie Ray Vaughan question

Keys like F, Eb, Ab, Bb don't bother piano players like they do guitar players. On piano no one key signature is really any harder to use than the next.

Don't see why it should even bother a guitarist

 

[crusty philtrum]

Re: Stevie Ray Vaughan question

It's easy .... capo the Hammond B3 at the 11th fret.

 

[blueman335]

Re: Stevie Ray Vaughan question

Don't see why it should even bother a guitarist

For many guitarists, probably not, but if you do a lot of sustained blues bending, it's harder to bend with your hand positioned at the first fret. Much easier to bend in G at the third fret.

 

[Chickenwings]

Re: Stevie Ray Vaughan question

So blues guitarists like to play in E and A a lot cos of the open strings. Voodoo chile is a good example of a blues in E...then detune it to Eb...

Eb minor pentatonic = all black keys.
Stevie could not have made it easier to play blues on a keyboard if he tried!
Lucky coincidence really.
Little wing is another one that is easier in Eb.

Anyways, good keyboardists can play all over any key. They are all the same in the end. 12 tones. Its only guitarists who get hung up about using open strings etc. The whole reason the tempered scale and keyboards got refined in the Baroque period was to facilitate easy access to all 12 keys.

 

[ItsaBass]

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IME, flat/sharp keys come more naturally to most keyboardists, especially those who come up playing with horn players.

And every guitar player should have no problem playing in flat/sharp keys, because every guitar player should have spent countless hours trying to cop every Chuck Berry lick in the book when they were first learning.

But seriously, check out Chuck Berry's stuff. Know why it is all in "funky" keys? Because Johnnie Johnson favored them!

 

[crusty philtrum]

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Its only guitarists who get hung up about using open strings etc.

I don't get hung up about using open strings. I do get hung about about using those other notes though, ya know... those ones where you have to push the wires down with your finger to make the noise .... i don't like those ones, they're hard to do and they hurt my finger. I try not to use those ones.

This is why i invented the piano capo back in the '70s, and the capo for Hammond organ in the '90s. (My long-awaited capo for pipe organ will be on the market later this year too, a lot of people are eagerly awaiting that one).

 

[Chickenwings]

Re: Stevie Ray Vaughan question

Crusty...you might be interested in one of these capos....go to 5:05

 

[crusty philtrum]

Re: Stevie Ray Vaughan question

Crusty...you might be interested in one of these capos....go to 5:05

Now that's just silly .....

 

[Varg]

Re: Stevie Ray Vaughan question

Crusty...you might be interested in one of these capos....go to 5:05

Just proves, that guy is a legend! The other guy, I just dont get it. What's the big deal with him?


How did he ever get an iconic guitar named after him? He's playing either way before or way after the beat FFS, he sounds like a beginner. That was excruciating to watch, apart from the Nigel Tufnel bits.

 

[SlyFoxx]

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When you're 90 and still a living legend then you have room to talk.