Strat-X Wiring with separate on-off switch

Danyosound

Danyosound

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I have a 3-singles (SSS) Jaguar and I'm off to mod it again! I want to use a 5-way "Super-Strat" blade and an on/off switch to achieve the sounds available from the provided Strat-X diagram.

HOWEVER, the Strat-X diagram requires a volume pot with an on/off switch, and I just want to use an external on/off switch on the upper horn of the Jaguar.

Since I'm not an electronics genius, I was hoping one of you could draw me a diagram to achieve what I'm going for. I will probably use 1meg pots.

The diagram shows the possibilities.

Also, what is the best switch to achieve the result? (I was going to buy a Free-Way, but it won't fit. Traditional blades fit though).

I'll probably use SD Antiquity I or II.

Thanks!
Daniel
 

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Re: Strat-X Wiring with separate on-off switch

The diagram shows an S-1 switch, which has quite a bit more going on that an on/off. What you're asking for will not work.
 
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1 meg pots sound horrible with the ants too. The absolute most I'd recommend would be 300k with a no load tone.
 
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JB_From_Hell said:
The diagram shows an S-1 switch, which has quite a bit more going on that an on/off. What you're asking for will not work.
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That very well may be. Could you explain a little?

Phostenix on Strat-Talk says that it's a pot with a 4PDT switch attached. Jaguar switches are DPDT.
I can't say that I'm versed enough to know the difference. Is there anyway to make it work?

http://www.strat-talk.com/threads/s1-switch-vs-push-pull.97822/
 
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Ya I've heard of the Jaguar and I have those exact pups you're planning on buying. I tried a 300k pot which metered 280 and that was too much so I went to a 250k pot which metered 225 and that sounds good but still pretty bright. The super vintage wind plus the degaussed poles make the ants very brittle if you open them up all the way with ur pots. Furthermore a 1 meg tone is stupid because it doesn't take effect until you turn it down to basically 2.
 
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Danyosound said:
Perhaps you have never heard of Fender Jaguar.
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I own a Jaguar. It’s obscenely bright.

As far as why what you’re asking won’t work, look at the back of the S1 switch and all the contact points. Now look at the Jaguar switch. See any difference?
 
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JB_From_Hell said:
I own a Jaguar. It’s obscenely bright.

As far as why what you’re asking won’t work, look at the back of the S1 switch and all the contact points. Now look at the Jaguar switch. See any difference?
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I rank your helpfulness at zero. And now why am I responding (...)?
 
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Danyosound said:
I rank your helpfulness at zero. And now why am I responding (...)?
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I was being a smart ass about the Jaguar. Point being 1M pots can make a guitar sound VERY bright. Like the Jaguar.

As far as the switch goes, a two pole switch like what’s in the Jaguar will not provide what is necessary to do what you’re asking for. I said “It will not work.” You said you don’t understand the difference between a 4PDT switch and DPDT switch. 4PDT means “4 pole double throw.” DPDT means “double pole double throw.”

A 4PDT switch is necessary to do what you want. A DPDT switch is not a 4PDT switch. Does that help clear it up?
 
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I would just use an S-1 for the tone, 1M for the volume, and keep whatever pickup switching it has now. Though I’d have to pour over the diagram to figure out how the same S-1 scheme would work with a Jaguar on-off pickup switching scheme.
 
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JB_From_Hell said:
I was being a smart ass about the Jaguar. Point being 1M pots can make a guitar sound VERY bright. Like the Jaguar.

As far as the switch goes, a two pole switch like what’s in the Jaguar will not provide what is necessary to do what you’re asking for. I said “It will not work.” You said you don’t understand the difference between a 4PDT switch and DPDT switch. 4PDT means “4 pole double throw.” DPDT means “double pole double throw.”

A 4PDT switch is necessary to do what you want. A DPDT switch is not a 4PDT switch. Does that help clear it up?
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Yes, that was a thoughtful response.

I may consider the 300K option, but now I have another question: do I do 300K for volume and tone? I've seen some SSS guitars with 300k tone and 1meg volume. I do like the openness of the bright Jaguar, but I've also thought that Strats can have knife-in-ear sound with 250k. I'm actually trying for more of a Strat sound anyway. Maybe 300k is the way to go after all.

Megaswitch
I am now considering the Schaller Megaswitch E, since I never use the middle pickup in isolation. The Megaswitch E would give me Bridge+Neck in parallel.
I really want Bridge+Neck with options in parallel AND series.
Could I wire up a DPDT on/on switch specifically for that purpose in this context?

New Pickups
I have 3 new pickups coming my way. They come standard with the middle having RWRP. Since I want hum-canceling in Bridge+Neck and Middle+Neck, should I have the Neck RWRP instead? I don't care if Bridge+Middle is noisy: I would use it the least.
 
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Danyosound said:
Yes, that was a thoughtful response.

I may consider the 300K option, but now I have another question: do I do 300K for volume and tone? I've seen some SSS guitars with 300k tone and 1meg volume. I do like the openness of the bright Jaguar, but I've also thought that Strats can have knife-in-ear sound with 250k. I'm actually trying for more of a Strat sound anyway. Maybe 300k is the way to go after all.

Megaswitch
I am now considering the Schaller Megaswitch E, since I never use the middle pickup in isolation. The Megaswitch E would give me Bridge+Neck in parallel.
I really want Bridge+Neck with options in parallel AND series.
Could I wire up a DPDT on/on switch specifically for that purpose in this context?

New Pickups
I have 3 new pickups coming my way. They come standard with the middle having RWRP. Since I want hum-canceling in Bridge+Neck and Middle+Neck, should I have the Neck RWRP instead? I don't care if Bridge+Middle is noisy: I would use it the least.
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Yes. You'll want the neck pickup to be RWRP.

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