Strings lining up with poles...does it really matter?

Stubbsy

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Ok, here's a bit of background to my question...So I've decided to give the Pearly Gates a try in my American Special HSS Strat (rosewood fretboard) replacing the Atomic HB that I've just never really bonded with. When measuring up to see if I need the HB or TB, the spacing of the E strings is exactly 50mm over the neck poles of the HB and 50.5mm over the bridge poles. Now, I'm aware what it says about HB vs TB on the SD website ie. in my case, go with the TB. That seems to be the way most people with Strats on various forums go too.

But then when I look from directly above the pickup I notice that only the D and G strings are directly over the poles. The A and B strings are about 1/4-1/3 narrower (cut the 4mm wide pole about 1mm in from the inner edge) and the two E strings are barely over the poles, maybe by 0.5-1mm. Basically, the poles are spaced wider than the strings. Similar thing with the middle Texas Special and even more pronounced with the neck pickup, where the E strings are barely running over the poles at all.

So I ask the title question because, if a guitar comes from the factory like this and I'm reasonably happy with the sound of the Texas Specials for now (maybe switch to SSLs later), I don't understand what difference to tone or volume it makes for the strings to be correctly aligned with the poles and why I need to specifically choose a TB over a HB when my E strings are pretty much exactly running 50mm apart over the bridge pickup. Can anyone tell me the importance (or unimportance) of having the strings aligned with the poles and does it really matter?

Oh, and am I right in going for the TB-PG1?

Cheers!
 
Re: Strings lining up with poles...does it really matter?

If you are happy with the tone, then don't worry about it.
 
Re: Strings lining up with poles...does it really matter?

"They" say you get decreased output from strings that are not directly over the pole piece, and maybe they have experiences or super hearing I've not shared in, but IME there are numerous reasons why a string might seem louder or quieter than it should which are potentially more profound, such as weaknesses, or uneven charge in the pole pieces or bar magnets underlying the screws and slugs, or issues with the guitar strings, or issues with how loud you expect it to be versus how loud that string inherently ever is, the fact that the high and low E are on the edges of the pickup by nature, etc. In the end, you might not hear any problems, but maybe you think you do hear a problem, and it might not even be the pole piece spacing that is to blame. That's probably why trembuckers exist at all, not to alleviate a problem, but the perception of a problem. Besides, crank the gain a little bit and the string balance all become a wash anyway.
 
Re: Strings lining up with poles...does it really matter?

I was told by a respected winder it doesn't matter.
 
Re: Strings lining up with poles...does it really matter?

Visually it matters. That's a about it. Also don't the American Special strats some with the narrow Mexican bridge? If so a regular spaced hum would line up better.
 
Re: Strings lining up with poles...does it really matter?

"They" say you get decreased output from strings that are not directly over the pole piece, and maybe they have experiences or super hearing I've not shared in, but IME there are numerous reasons why a string might seem louder or quieter than it should which are potentially more profound, such as weaknesses, or uneven charge in the pole pieces or bar magnets underlying the screws and slugs, or issues with the guitar strings, or issues with how loud you expect it to be versus how loud that string inherently ever is, the fact that the high and low E are on the edges of the pickup by nature, etc. In the end, you might not hear any problems, but maybe you think you do hear a problem, and it might not even be the pole piece spacing that is to blame. That's probably why trembuckers exist at all, not to alleviate a problem, but the perception of a problem. Besides, crank the gain a little bit and the string balance all become a wash anyway.

This from the guy that plays with oscilloscopes.

I heard a volume drop on an Invader. I trust my ears. Cranking the gain has nothing to do with it, because I *always* do that.

To OP:

If you don't hear a volume drop on the E strings, you're fine. Most people don't hear it. I've only heard it on one guitar, with one pickup, but that was enough for me to never take any chances. A trembucker on a standard spaced bridge (which is very rare these days) will have adequate coverage on every string. The opposite may not be true.
 
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Re: Strings lining up with poles...does it really matter?

Visually it matters. That's a about it. Also don't the American Special strats some with the narrow Mexican bridge? If so a regular spaced hum would line up better.

MIM bridges line up better with F-Spaced/Trembuckers. (2 1/6" = 52.3875mm)

The American bridge is wider than that.
 
Re: Strings lining up with poles...does it really matter?

I always say hey, if you find a Trembucker for wider string spacings then go for it. If not, no big deal. With either pickup spacing you will still need to make your adjustments to the pole screws anyway.
 
Re: Strings lining up with poles...does it really matter?

They don't have to be dead-center but they shouldn't be hanging complete outside the poles. But if you don't hear any drop-off, signal is just as strong as the other strings, then what we have here is a solution in search of a problem.
 
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