buckethead
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got a new esp eclipse and i have to get a setup and i just recently thought about doing the strings over the stop bar. If anybody has long term usage let me know what you think.
Strings over or under
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DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
Re: Strings over or under
I've seen this done, however, I've never seen or heard any conclusive proof that it makes a difference. I know the people who do it religiously say that it enhances tone/sustain/magical properties since the stopbar is screwed hard against the top of the solid body (to maintain the correct string angle across the saddles), but again, I've seen no scientific proof of that claim.
I've also seen where people who do it claim that the strings feel more slinky, due to the slightly reduced break angle across the saddles, but frankly, as long as you've got the correct angle across the saddles to achieve proper string tension and thus proper tuning pitch, I still can't see it being anything other than a throwback to the old all-in-one bridge+stopbar units of Ye Olden Days.
I've seen this done, however, I've never seen or heard any conclusive proof that it makes a difference. I know the people who do it religiously say that it enhances tone/sustain/magical properties since the stopbar is screwed hard against the top of the solid body (to maintain the correct string angle across the saddles), but again, I've seen no scientific proof of that claim.
I've also seen where people who do it claim that the strings feel more slinky, due to the slightly reduced break angle across the saddles, but frankly, as long as you've got the correct angle across the saddles to achieve proper string tension and thus proper tuning pitch, I still can't see it being anything other than a throwback to the old all-in-one bridge+stopbar units of Ye Olden Days.
ex-250
Riffologist Extraordinaire
Re: Strings over or under
Depends entirely on the guitar. If it plays too stiff, I'll throw em over. If its fine as is, keep them under.
I don't notice much tonal difference, but I absolutely subscribe to the "slinkier" theory of over-wrapping. In most cases I don't find it to be necessary though.
Depends entirely on the guitar. If it plays too stiff, I'll throw em over. If its fine as is, keep them under.
I don't notice much tonal difference, but I absolutely subscribe to the "slinkier" theory of over-wrapping. In most cases I don't find it to be necessary though.
guitfiddle
firstlessonologist
Re: Strings over or under
Through, like they designed it. If the tension is too much I raise it some.
Through, like they designed it. If the tension is too much I raise it some.
Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
Re: Strings over or under
Under? I guess that means through? Unless you mean under the tail piece, in which case neither of the two options.
Under? I guess that means through? Unless you mean under the tail piece, in which case neither of the two options.
JeffB
Let it B
whatshisname
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Re: Strings over or under
I've been top wrapping my Les Paul. I just wanted to see for myself if it made any difference, after hearing so many people go on about it. I'm still not sure if it's better, but I do like being able to lower the tail piece all of the way down.
I've been top wrapping my Les Paul. I just wanted to see for myself if it made any difference, after hearing so many people go on about it. I'm still not sure if it's better, but I do like being able to lower the tail piece all of the way down.
NevermindUs
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Re: Strings over or under
i have my gibby sg strung over the stop bar right now. i hate it. as soon as i get strings its going back to normal
i have my gibby sg strung over the stop bar right now. i hate it. as soon as i get strings its going back to normal
Archer_of_Fish
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Re: Strings over or under
It reduces the overall bearing angle on the bridge, which reduces the bearing pressure on the bridge. In laymans terms...it makes the strings a little slinkier which is why I do it.
I dont notice a real change in sustain but I dont sit there holding notes for 30 seconds + very often so it works for me.
It reduces the overall bearing angle on the bridge, which reduces the bearing pressure on the bridge. In laymans terms...it makes the strings a little slinkier which is why I do it.
I dont notice a real change in sustain but I dont sit there holding notes for 30 seconds + very often so it works for me.
Re: Strings over or under
I personally top wrap just cuz I think it looks better and I havent broke a string since I have been doing it. It allows you to lower the bar all the way to the body and maintain a good break angle without having to raise the tailpiece up high, which IMO looks gross. Everything just feels more solid. Win win for me. Its subjective, just like pretty much everything when it comes to guitars.
I personally top wrap just cuz I think it looks better and I havent broke a string since I have been doing it. It allows you to lower the bar all the way to the body and maintain a good break angle without having to raise the tailpiece up high, which IMO looks gross. Everything just feels more solid. Win win for me. Its subjective, just like pretty much everything when it comes to guitars.
SrDeMaFp
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Re: Strings over or under
I top-wrap because I like the idea of the tailpiece being in contact with the body and the strings fully clear the back of the TOM. It sure as hell can't hurt the sustain. It also does seem to make the strings feel a bit looser but, that could also just be a placebo effect. Who knows. Looks better too, IMO.
I top-wrap because I like the idea of the tailpiece being in contact with the body and the strings fully clear the back of the TOM. It sure as hell can't hurt the sustain. It also does seem to make the strings feel a bit looser but, that could also just be a placebo effect. Who knows. Looks better too, IMO.