Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

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Yeah, I was thinking something like the Joe Bardens.....now that GFS is basically copying them with the Lil Punchers.

As for HSS strat setups, tremspaced Jazz Bridge. In my HSS strat, I have a Jazz bridge and 2 Surfers and they match up better than anything I've tried. The Jazz B is known as a bright low output humbucker, but it's got a very nice tone overall. Since most strat bridge pickups are very bright, the Jazz works fine because it's never going to be as bright as a single, but it's got the oomph of any good A5 humbucker.....just not the output of a JB or C-5. The poles line up good enough for me. I can't hear any dropout on the E's.

 

[jeremy]

Re: Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

Lew, do you think a Phat Cat bridge model would balance well with a pair of SSL-1's in the neck and mid? Also, would it be hum cancelling in pos. 4?

I know it's not a 'bucker, but they do sound plenty fat enough for me. :burnout:

i think the phat cat would over power the ssl1, maybe not by much if you kept it low but its got more juice than most strat pups. as far as hum canceling im sure it could work. it might require flipping some stuff around but im sure you could get it to work

 

[Guitar Toad]

Re: Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

Evan, To be honest, there is the Surfer Custom Bridge, the Texas Hot Custom Bridge and the Twangbanger...I feel that those 3 pickups cover a lot of space for Strat players that want a hotter bridge pickup...

Is this part of the thinking, that since there are plenty of hot single coils out there, one of those should be able to cover the HB territory?

The Jazz neck is listed at 7.72K. The Jazz bridge is listed at 7.90K.
The Seth Lover neck/bridge are 7.2/8.1
The '59 is listed at 7.43/8.13.
Any of these would appear to work nicely with neck and middle vintage output single coils as Lew suggested in this threads opening. If they were all available as tremspaced they would be a nice palette of pickups to choose from for a strat HB.

Which HB's are available off the shelf tremspaced? Is the Jazz Bridge one of those? Seth?

Is Evan going to return to this thread with a response from Mr. Duncan?

 

[Evan Skopp]

Re: Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

The '59 is available off-the-shelf in Trembucker spacing. The Jazz and Seth Lover can be made that was a shop floor custom -- no extra cost, but a four week lead time.

 

[Guitar Toad]

Re: Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

The '59 is available off-the-shelf in Trembucker spacing. The Jazz and Seth Lover can be made that was a shop floor custom -- no extra cost, but a four week lead time.

Thanks for the quick response Evan.

The Jazz and Seth Lover both look like great candidates. Why is the Jazz neck suggested over the Jazz bridge for a Fat strat?

 

[Zhangliqun]

Re: Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

i think the phat cat would over power the ssl1, maybe not by much if you kept it low but its got more juice than most strat pups. as far as hum canceling im sure it could work. it might require flipping some stuff around but im sure you could get it to work

I would recommend the Phat Cat neck -- and even the neck is pretty fat and big sounding. An underwound Phat Cat (7.0 to 7.5k) would probably do the trick.

 

[Zhangliqun]

Re: Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

Thanks for the quick response Evan.

The Jazz and Seth Lover both look like great candidates. Why is the Jazz neck suggested over the Jazz bridge for a Fat strat?

It's not that it's better in general. Lew is just looking for lower output and chime to match his vintage-flavor singles in the neck and middle on his Strat. A trem-spaced jazz neck sounds like the ideal candidate.

 

[Guitar Toad]

Re: Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

It's not that it's better in general. Lew is just looking for lower output and chime to match his vintage-flavor singles in the neck and middle on his Strat. A trem-spaced jazz neck sounds like the ideal candidate.

Is he the only one who wants this?
It sounds like he has identified a gap in the SD line.
Many guys appear to like the CC in their fat strats.
Would those guys who like the CC like a tremspaced Jazz neck in the bridge position of their strat?

 

[Zhangliqun]

Re: Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

Is he the only one who wants this?
It sounds like he has identified a gap in the SD line.

Not really since Evan says you can do a "Shop Floor Custom" order on this pickup -- same price, just takes 4 weeks to get it.

Many guys appear to like the CC in their fat strats.
Would those guys who like the CC like a tremspaced Jazz neck in the bridge position of their strat?

Probably not since they are pretty much at opposite ends of the spectrum tonally and output-wise.

 

[John Wymore]

Re: Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

Many guys appear to like the CC in their fat strats.
Would those guys who like the CC like a tremspaced Jazz neck in the bridge position of their strat?

I think the would be pretty different animals both in output and tone. As mentioned above the Jazz will likely have more of a Strat type chime and edge to it.

I am placing a fairly big order today with Duncan. I'm getting an Alnico II Pro Trembucker for a customer and I think I might try to get a Jazz Neck Trembucker to just to try out. I'm not sure a neck version would fall under the "Shop Floor Custom" designation.

 

[Guitar Toad]

Re: Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

Probably not since they are pretty much at opposite ends of the spectrum tonally and output-wise.

Yes, of course.

Most guys that have the CC would tend to to have hotter middle and neck singles or play mostly from the CC and wouldn't switch as much between neck and bridge?

 

[Zhangliqun]

Re: Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

Yes, of course.

Most guys that have the CC would tend to to have hotter middle and neck singles or play mostly from the CC and wouldn't switch as much between neck and bridge?

Probably so -- but one solution for "having it all" would be to wire the CC to a Spin-A-Split for some vintage jangle to go with the other two pickups.

 

[Guitar Toad]

Re: Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

Probably so -- but one solution for "having it all" would be to wire the CC to a Spin-A-Split for some vintage jangle to go with the other two pickups.

Like This

How would you do that in a HSS?

 

[Zhangliqun]

Re: Suggestion for the Duncan Company:

Like This

How would you do that in a HSS?

Just like that. Don't let the diagram confuse you -- HH or HSS, it doesn't matter. All you have to do is give up one of your pots for it, probably a tone pot. If a tone pot, remove the capacitor and wire the red and white wires to the middle lug of the pot, just like in the diagram, and you're done.

From there you just have to figure out whether you want to wire your remaining tone pot (assuming you have the typical 1-vol/2-tone set-up) as a master volume or just have it affect one of your pickups.