Surprised the Tech 21 amps don't get more love from the Amp modeling crowd.

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Just messed around with two of them for about 30 minutes and I must say I like them. It's just a straight forward amp without any digital craziness to get in the way. The higher end/big ones come with an effects loop so they seem usable in real life situations.

The Trademark 30 had 3 amps, tweed, british, and california and within that you had 3 mods, clean, hi gain, hot and then you had three speak sound options. I love that it's so straight forward. Flip three switches, adjust eq and gain, play!

The bigger one had 2 channels and did not have the switches, but was just as easy to use and sounded nice.

I wish the modelers took this approach instead of trying to jam everything under the sun into their amp. At least Vox improved their presets etc.

Anyone own one of these and have a longer experience with them?
 
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GREAT amps! Bought and sold a Trademark 10 more than once and regret it, had a pristine Trademark 60 that I let go for a song - all the time wanting to go with "real tube amps", my mistake... Fender clean pre-set tends to be a little on the quiet side, British sounds very nice either low-gain or hot-rodded, and the California flat-out roars!

I would snag a T30 in a heartbeat if I could find a good deal on one... Just a fun amp!

Dan
 
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Dan-ola said:
GREAT amps! Bought and sold a Trademark 10 more than once and regret it, had a pristine Trademark 60 that I let go for a song - all the time wanting to go with "real tube amps", my mistake... Fender clean pre-set tends to be a little on the quiet side, British sounds very nice either low-gain or hot-rodded, and the California flat-out roars!

I would snag a T30 in a heartbeat if I could find a good deal on one... Just a fun amp!

Dan
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I know, I'm fighting with my tube amp. Sometimes it sounds good, change a few things, then it don't. I think I've realized what I want, something that just sounds good and solid and is plug and play. I haven't been happy with the digital modelers, tube amps seem to be finicky, I dunno, maybe one of these would make me happy.
 
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I want one. I played one at my old manager's house, and the thing was fantastical. It would be a GREAT option for not having to lug my lead sled AC30 everywhere.
 
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That's what I really liked about my cube - pretty close to the trademak level of simplicity.

I saw Mincer playing through one. excellent sound. Of course, maybe it was just him...
 
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I think a lot of people considering modeling amps are just starting out and can't spend Tech 21 money. Shame, because their stuff sounds great. Behringer ripped them off for the V-Tone analog modeling amps.
 
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on paper, it would seem like my perfect amp, really. I tried a trademark 30 at GC once. It was on sale and I thought I'd be buying it. At high gain, during palm mutes, it seemed to sag so much it had an audible volume drop. It may have been messed up or something, it just reacted very odd with distortion and my palm mutes. one thing I never got about them was the speaker emulators of a sansamp on an amp with a speaker. it's like I want to turn off the emulated speaker portion of the circuit to see what it would do without it.
 
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Awww...but really, I love my TM60- you can beat on it, and there are no tubes to blow. I generally use the clean channel, then just a TS style pedal for gain, although the gain channel is great too. Expensive when new, they are pretty under utilized. Apparently the new Character pedals sounds amazing direct to a PA, but I haven't tried them yet. If my band starts using in ear monitors, I am considering it though.
 
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Do they take pedals well? I have to get a T30 as a backup amp. My Fender Blues Deluxe is acting funny again (during a gig!!) and I'm a bit tired of tube amps o.O..well. Maybe I should get a t60 1x12 and get rid of some OD pedals and the Fender.
 
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I completely forgot about those things, they did sound pretty darn good for solid state.
 
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Mincer said:
Awww...but really, I love my TM60- you can beat on it, and there are no tubes to blow. I generally use the clean channel, then just a TS style pedal for gain, although the gain channel is great too. Expensive when new, they are pretty under utilized. Apparently the new Character pedals sounds amazing direct to a PA, but I haven't tried them yet. If my band starts using in ear monitors, I am considering it though.
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Man, what a nice easy load-in that would be. Come in, toss the soundguy a cable, and tune up.
 
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I'd like to check out one of their 30 or 60 watters. I can think of some uses for something like that.

I don't have a huge problem with solid-state. Good solid-state tone (analog) still trumps digital most of the time to my ears.
 
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I read this and remembered how great they looked to me, wondered why I never went further in investigating them (my sansamp GT2 sounded awesome direct)
Then I remembered. The 30 is a 10" (I would prefer a 12" but could live without it), I woudl like a boost,
Only has 1 channel (I would really want 2 of the channels the 30 has) and is $320 new.
The 60 interested me since it meets all of my wants, but it is $700 !!
And actually, its not really what I want. I want a lower gain marshall sound on 1, and a medium to high gain marshall on 2. The sansamp did it (as far as I remember)
 
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Tech 21 in general is pretty good. The Sansamp is just awesome, no matter how you use it. And now they have a full line of pedal effects that seem to go unnoticed. I use a Tech 21 boost r.v.b. and it works better for me than the Holy Grail.
They're really cutting edge digital effects. I mean come on, my reverb is built to have anolog "flaws, plus a clean boost" which i think is brilliant.
I personally don't think you can go wrong with anything from Tech 21.
 
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Owned a Trademark 60, used it for gigs and it really had a solid tone, both clean and a very good Marshall crunch. Bought it new too...sold it way cheap...keeping my Trademark 10...fun practice amp.
 
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