Swamp Ash LP Studio Pickup Advice Needed

chris.goth

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Hi.

I'm playing my LP Studio Swamp Ash through a Mesa/Boogie Subway Blues amp.
The amp is really bright and middy (think a miny Marshall JCM-800 stack). I've recorded a lot with the amp and know it is THE thing for me. I'm used to play it with a Schecter C-1 Classic (JB/Jazz), so the guitar is usually quite balanced and the overdrive sounds I get on record are full, rich and solid.

I love my LP (gibson 498T / 490R) for clean stuff, and mild to medium overdrive textures, where it really gets that vintage vibe when combined with an overdriven Class A amp. The problem is that when I put some real drive in it, the Amp plus the guitar's mids and highs turn to total mud. No definition and sustain at all. Sounds like a barfing dog. Through a full rackmount with a Marshall JMP-1 Preamp, no problem for the harder settings, but I can't move my whole rig for small club playing or studio.

I play every style of music, and need a pickup that would be able to give me about the same sound I already have, but that is able to respond well under heavier drive, so basicly a pickup with less mids, more drive, more definition, less barking (upper mid spike). The Duncan JB is great, but me LP is already super bright... so I don't think it would fit. I thought about the Custom Custom, or the Custom 5, but have NO IDEA how it would sound or if the combination would actually work.

Since I'm an active playing and gigging musician, I need a versatile setup, but I'm still using my Schecter as an all-around guitar, and would like to be able to take my LP to more gigs and use it for more than only blues, rockabilly, and pop rythm playing, and make it a real workhorse for lead playing.

Thanks for your advice.
 
Re: Swamp Ash LP Studio Pickup Advice Needed

Welcome to the forum!

I can totally understand your problem. I was thinking more or less the same with my LP Studio (usual make up) while playing through my Laney this afternoon. The neck pup get muddy very quickly when you increase the gain.
And depending on what you want to play under a fair amount of gain, it starts laking definition in the bridge as well. I was trying some Soundgarden riffs and rhythm figs. No good.

Neck pup excellent for Alice n Chains clean though.

I personally will start by swapping magnets around, see what it changes. Might not be enough of a change but it's more for the experiment than anything.

Then I was suggested to get a PGn and Custom bridge as I intend to play more high gain stuff with this guitar. I think I will eventually end up with this setup. But for now it's inexpensive experiments.

PS: Surely more experimented bros will chime in for a more specific reply.
 
Re: Swamp Ash LP Studio Pickup Advice Needed

The custom custom is nice in ash. Balances well in a bright guitar. You may want to try a custom through, more versitile to my ears. If you do not need a high output pup try a '59 best all rounder I ever had
 
Re: Swamp Ash LP Studio Pickup Advice Needed

Problem is that Custom Custom is Alnico II, which is supposed to be loaded with mids, and I don't know how it'll react with the amp.

As for the 59, isnt it pretty bright already? I'm afraid bright guitar+bright pickup+bright amp = same thing I already have.

As for the Custom... ceramic magnet will sound too harsh (swamp ash body), I'm pretty sure, and I need to be able to play clean when I want to, so this one ain't in my list for this guitar.
 
Re: Swamp Ash LP Studio Pickup Advice Needed

custom custom in a mid heavy amp doesn't sound like a good mix to me. There is always the mid control, of course. I tend to roll the bass knob down a notch or two on the amp whenever palying an LP, for example...

Have you thought about 59s? or A2P's?
 
Re: Swamp Ash LP Studio Pickup Advice Needed

I think a set of PG's with 300k pots would sound pretty good in that LP.
 
Re: Swamp Ash LP Studio Pickup Advice Needed

PG w/300k's - another possible good call! Love the PG....
 
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