James Rock
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I was wondeing if there was a possible way that (using a push/pull pot) I could change the middle setting (on a les paul) from parrellel to series as well as using another 2 pots to split each pickup
Swithing From Parallel to Series
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Artie
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Re: Swithing From Parallel to Series
The JP wiring will probably do a lot that you don't want. Use this schematic for the series/parallel part: (Use the left switch only.)
http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/series_split_par_w_phase.html
Use this diagram for a split, just do the same thing for both pups:
http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/hum_1vol-w-coil_split.html
The JP wiring will probably do a lot that you don't want. Use this schematic for the series/parallel part: (Use the left switch only.)
http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/series_split_par_w_phase.html
Use this diagram for a split, just do the same thing for both pups:
http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/hum_1vol-w-coil_split.html
James Rock
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Re: Swithing From Parallel to Series
i am confused does the series-splti -parrallel just change it from series to parrallel (why does it say split)
i am confused does the series-splti -parrallel just change it from series to parrallel (why does it say split)
James Rock
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Re: Swithing From Parallel to Series
Don't worry i understand now (with a push pull pot it is series/parrallel and with a on/on/on switch it is series/split/parallel )
Don't worry i understand now (with a push pull pot it is series/parrallel and with a on/on/on switch it is series/split/parallel )
James Rock
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Re: Swithing From Parallel to Series
Now I have both schematics how do i join them together. AS in do i i wire the pickups for split then go out of the BRIDGE coil tapping push pull pot into the series/parellel pot then to the tone pots and volume pots like wired in the schematic
http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/2hum_2vol_2tone_3way-w-ssp.html
Now I have both schematics how do i join them together. AS in do i i wire the pickups for split then go out of the BRIDGE coil tapping push pull pot into the series/parellel pot then to the tone pots and volume pots like wired in the schematic
http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/2hum_2vol_2tone_3way-w-ssp.html
James Rock
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Re: Swithing From Parallel to Series
am i write in thinking this is the way to go or am i going down the wrong path?
am i write in thinking this is the way to go or am i going down the wrong path?
Robert S.
Super Moderator
Re: Swithing From Parallel to Series
James, let me clear this up for you. The series/parallel diagram that Artie posted does not do what you asked for. That diagram changes the coil connections on one humbucker from series to parallel, which sounds very simular to split but without the hum.
You asked far a schematic that connects both HBs in series in the middle position of a LP and that, along with the hum cancelling splits is available in the Jimmy Page wiring.
The 4th push/pull is a phase switch and this is also nessessary for what you want to do. The series/parallel option you are looking for is usually accomplished by lifting the grounds (SD green) and connecting them and then the neck pickups black is used as the ground. This leaves the two pickups out of phase and the phase switch corrects that.
Artie stated that the JP wiring has more than you are looking for and this is only partially true. All of the 21 different coil combinations are useable in the JP wiring though some are more desireable than others. The thing is though as illustrated in the above example, you need all 4 push/pulls to accomplish what you want to do.
That is unless Artie can figure out how to wire a single dpdt switch so that it does these things. The bridge pickups green/ground must be lifted and connected to the neck pickups hot lead, which must be lifted from the neck volume pots #3 terminal.
Doing this may cause a phase problem with your splits though.
He's pretty slick so we'll see.......
James, let me clear this up for you. The series/parallel diagram that Artie posted does not do what you asked for. That diagram changes the coil connections on one humbucker from series to parallel, which sounds very simular to split but without the hum.
You asked far a schematic that connects both HBs in series in the middle position of a LP and that, along with the hum cancelling splits is available in the Jimmy Page wiring.
The 4th push/pull is a phase switch and this is also nessessary for what you want to do. The series/parallel option you are looking for is usually accomplished by lifting the grounds (SD green) and connecting them and then the neck pickups black is used as the ground. This leaves the two pickups out of phase and the phase switch corrects that.
Artie stated that the JP wiring has more than you are looking for and this is only partially true. All of the 21 different coil combinations are useable in the JP wiring though some are more desireable than others. The thing is though as illustrated in the above example, you need all 4 push/pulls to accomplish what you want to do.
That is unless Artie can figure out how to wire a single dpdt switch so that it does these things. The bridge pickups green/ground must be lifted and connected to the neck pickups hot lead, which must be lifted from the neck volume pots #3 terminal.
Doing this may cause a phase problem with your splits though.
He's pretty slick so we'll see.......
Robert S.
Super Moderator
Re: Swithing From Parallel to Series
Just as a reference.
http://www.gibson.com/Files/schematics/pagewiring.gif
I've used the JP wiring on several LPs and it is very cool.
Just as a reference.
http://www.gibson.com/Files/schematics/pagewiring.gif
I've used the JP wiring on several LPs and it is very cool.
Artie
Peaveyologist
Re: Swithing From Parallel to Series
Sometimes slick . . . sometimes thick! I can't believe that I completely missed the boat on the series thang. :smack:
The Jimmy Page wiring definitely offers a great variety of sounds. If you wanted to keep it a bit simpler, here's one of my favorite wiring schemes for twin humbuckers:
I realize that some folks don't read schematics too well, so let me explain what this does.
A: This push/pull pot splits both pups in the manner shown on the Benedetto web page. (Seymour Duncan pups.) It splits to the adjustable coil of the neck, and the stud coil of the bridge. Not only does this technique keep the neck/bridge combo humbucking, but it also gives you the two best split tones for each pup. (IMHO) The "inside" coil of the bridge, and the "outside" coil of the neck.
B: This push/pull places the neck and bridge in series even if they're split. Also, it effectively bypasses the 3-way, so you don't have to worry about which position its in when you do the "series" thing. In many wiring diagrams I've seen, connecting the neck/bridge in series can only be done with the 3-way/5-way in one specific position. I like mine better.
btw - If you want to use two independent pp's to split the pups individually, the diagram doesn't really change. Just the two "halves" of pp "B" become one half each of two different pp's. The actual wiring stays the same.
Let me know if you don't understand any part of this. We can get it.
Artie
P.S. To those who are still waiting for a diagram from me, I haven't forgotten. I just had this one in my archive already.
Thanks for your patience.
Robert S. said:
Sometimes slick . . . sometimes thick! I can't believe that I completely missed the boat on the series thang. :smack:
The Jimmy Page wiring definitely offers a great variety of sounds. If you wanted to keep it a bit simpler, here's one of my favorite wiring schemes for twin humbuckers:
I realize that some folks don't read schematics too well, so let me explain what this does.
A: This push/pull pot splits both pups in the manner shown on the Benedetto web page. (Seymour Duncan pups.) It splits to the adjustable coil of the neck, and the stud coil of the bridge. Not only does this technique keep the neck/bridge combo humbucking, but it also gives you the two best split tones for each pup. (IMHO) The "inside" coil of the bridge, and the "outside" coil of the neck.
B: This push/pull places the neck and bridge in series even if they're split. Also, it effectively bypasses the 3-way, so you don't have to worry about which position its in when you do the "series" thing. In many wiring diagrams I've seen, connecting the neck/bridge in series can only be done with the 3-way/5-way in one specific position. I like mine better.
btw - If you want to use two independent pp's to split the pups individually, the diagram doesn't really change. Just the two "halves" of pp "B" become one half each of two different pp's. The actual wiring stays the same.
Let me know if you don't understand any part of this. We can get it.
Artie
P.S. To those who are still waiting for a diagram from me, I haven't forgotten. I just had this one in my archive already.
Thanks for your patience.
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James Rock
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Re: Swithing From Parallel to Series
Is it hard to do that wiring (it looks like there will be little room for mistakes because of all the wires flying everywhere)
Yeh After reading a bit i figured that. So I will need to do the jimmy page wiring for the parrallel to series thing to work properly.
Is it hard to do that wiring (it looks like there will be little room for mistakes because of all the wires flying everywhere)
Robert S.
Super Moderator
Re: Swithing From Parallel to Series
The JP wiring is a little tricky but it's not as bad as it looks. The first time I did it I got a little confused but after a few installs it goes in pretty easy for me.
The 2 volume pots are simple splits, one to north and one to the south bobbin for hum cancelling.
The phase switch/bridge tone P/P is also simple.
The series parallel switch is a little trickier and you need to look at the 3 way switch wiring as it is different from normal Gibson wiring. The output section of the 3 way is split instead of being wired common to the output jack.
Then you just wire the switches together and off you go!
The JP wiring is a little tricky but it's not as bad as it looks. The first time I did it I got a little confused but after a few installs it goes in pretty easy for me.
The 2 volume pots are simple splits, one to north and one to the south bobbin for hum cancelling.
The phase switch/bridge tone P/P is also simple.
The series parallel switch is a little trickier and you need to look at the 3 way switch wiring as it is different from normal Gibson wiring. The output section of the 3 way is split instead of being wired common to the output jack.
Then you just wire the switches together and off you go!
