TC Hall Of Fame Question........

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I installed the Simoverb toneprint on my HOF. I'd like to know what the pedal's tone control
does with this particular tone print. As far as I know, the tone control is supposed to be able to set a
"threshold" for the amount of reverb coming through the signal so that it will not work against distortion. If the tone control on the pedal does works in this fashion, does it matter if the HOF goes through the amp's effects loop or should be straight into the amp input?


Studioplayer
 
Re: TC Hall Of Fame Question........

Great question.
I own the HOF and I think it's pretty damn fantastic. As far as placement, the HOF IMO should be at the end of your effects chain meaning the last pedal before your amp. Now that can be all out front if your not using the OD of your amp. If you are using your drive channel and your amp has an effects loop, I strongly suggest putting it in there and using it again last in line.

So with that general advise I don't however know what the tone control should do. Did you watch the video of the making of that Print? They usually talk about how and what does what but sometimes you have to rewind a few times as sometimes they skim over it to quickly.

I never run Reverb out in front of an amp with a drive channel never. I don't fully understand your question about distortion, is that a pedal or the amps drive channel? Either way if you have an effects loop, it will work better in there then out front. All reverb effects to me sound much better between the preamp and amp of your guitar amp then out front.
If you using a pedal for distortion and just the clean channel of your amp, I still like it in the effects loop so you reverb effect also uses the preamp section.
 
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I've watched the video that explains what is supposed to happen when the Simoverb print is working. It does not interfere
with and distortion that JD Simo gets from his Fender amp. Most reverbs when put straight in mess up amp tone....single ended amps.

I have a Micro Dark by Orange. It is a single-ended hybrid. I use the HOF pedal as my only effect in then amp's loop. When using the HOF tone control, I don't hear any change in tone when I turn the tone control for its whole sweep. The "print"
made for Simo allows a threshold to be set so that when distortion increases, the reverb recedes in volume so as not to
mess with the players' distorted tone.

Studioplayer
 
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I guess what I would do is connect it to the editor on my PC to see what it is doing 'live'. Maybe that way you can see what is shifting around and mapped unto the tone knob easier, and maybe tailor it to your own setup?
 
Re: TC Hall Of Fame Question........

MrTondo said:
I guess what I would do is connect it to the editor on my PC to see what it is doing 'live'. Maybe that way you can see what is shifting around and mapped unto the tone knob easier, and maybe tailor it to your own setup?
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Good idea! I've also email'd TC and am awaiting a response.


Studioplayer
 
Re: TC Hall Of Fame Question........

MrTondo said:
I guess what I would do is connect it to the editor on my PC to see what it is doing 'live'. Maybe that way you can see what is shifting around and mapped unto the tone knob easier, and maybe tailor it to your own setup?
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I did not utilize the editor, but I'm sure your's is an excellent suggestion. Here is the response from Thierry Cattiaux at
Music-group.com (TC Electronic support?):


Thank you for your patience and thanks for using TC Electronic.
Yes, the TONE knob is active on the SimoVerb. However, it does not work as usually. This TonePrint is a dynamic room reverb that gets out of the way when you want to via the built-in compressor, which you can control via the TONE knob. So if you just hint of reverb when you play softly, but want it out of the way once you kick in the gain then this TonePrint is your solution.
Also, the reverb sounds thinner with the TONE control all the way down and it will go thicker as you will increase the TONE control up to its maximum.
As every effect based on delay and modulation as for instance:
- Chorus
- Flanger
- Delay
- Reverb...
It's better to connect these kind of effects in the FX loop. The reason is a better signal-to-noise ratio. Also the effects are more efficient as they stand after the preamp and before the amp section.

Looks like the parameters are already thought out and designed into the Simoverb toneprint. I'm wondering why I have difficulty hearing the changes in the reverb amounts when I sweep the tone pot on my HOF. The "compressor" might be subtle. Then again, I have a single-ended Orange Micro Dark and I may have to dial in the gain sufficiently enough to get a good amount of crunch and grind when guitar vol. is up, yet really get "cleaner" when rolling vol. back down. Then, I should find where on my volume control I need to be to get it all "touch-sensitive"

Studioplayer
 
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I guess it has to do with the input level of the signal when this particular toneprint was made OR it's just a subtle reverb toneprint. You can reconfigure what the knobs control with the editor, so I bet the tone control functionality is switched to some other parameter. The HoF has too many parameters to adjust in the editor, if it's an artist toneprint(even TC made) the editor won't open it for you to see the settings of it I think, the editor ends up loading the templates first when you go to edit anything... You could make your own though that does work for your needs better.
 
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