The Difference a Mic Makes

Lazarus1140

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After much help (mostly from guys in this house) I have finally managed to do some recording. I am blown away by the sound quality on the stuff I have recorded clean.

The bummer is that I can't get a decent sound when I'm trying to record an overdriven tone. I mean, I sorted through pedals and speakers and pickups for several years until I finally arrived at what I believed was exactly the tone I was looking for, but I can't seem to capture it in a recording.

Either my ears have been lying to me for over a year or I am doing something wrong. I have tried many, many different mic positions, added a mixer etc. etc. etc.

The sound I am getting is very thin and somewhat buzzy. Rather than sound like the tube overdrive that I think I hear live it just sounds more like a raw, unprocessed, yet clipped, sound. I sounds as if my pedals and amp aren't even in the chain.

I have adjusted gains and levels and (according to the meter) there is no evidence of clipping, but the sound totally sucks.

I know there have been threads about this and that mic, and this question is particularly directed toward those who play live or record with mic'd cabinets ...... does a mic make that much difference? The mic I am using is a no name whatever that I had laying around. Actually, it is a Yamaha but there is no model number or other identifying marks.

I don't want to give up and just go totally digital and record guitar with software enhancements because one of the reasons I wanted to record was so I could compare pickups .... clean and dirty. I would also like to participate in the next Riff-Off. The Riff-Off #1 entrants would not be seriously challenged by me ......... I just think it would be fun to participate.

I have learned to accept being a marginal player, but after the time and money I've invested I really thought my rig sounded better. How much difference does a mic make?
 
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If the mic is crap it will make a world of difference.

The weak spots in audio are the transducers. The things that turn one kind of energy into another kind of energy. Namely speakers and microphones. If you ran your nice guitar and amp through a crappy 40 dollar speaker cabinet you'd expect less than stellar results would you not? The mic is just the reverse of that.

But lucky for us we can get fine results for electric guitar with mics that run about 100 bucks. The SM57 being a standard but there are others in the same price range that work fine too.
 
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I'm chiming in on your "going digital" comment - you don't really need to go digital as the next step from a mic. I've used an external (analog) cab sim for several recordings with distorted gits (I come out the line out from a combo amp), and I've been real pleased with the results.
 
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I'm certainly no expert in the subject here but like in most electronic things the "you get what you pay for" rule applies here as well. Luckily as SlyFoxx already pointed out your options here aren't too expensive.

Go out and get a USED ($60-$70) or NEW ($99 all day long) SM57 somewhere and see if that doesn't change your world dramatically.
 
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Another source of the problem is that you only have one mic. I've never been able to get half as good of a sound with one mic. I always try to get two SM57s in there because I don't think there are many mics out there that can give ya a more pure sound.
 
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Mics make a huge difference and so does your A/D converter.

I have been getting amazing results with a Rode Nt1-A lately. Before that I was using either a Shure SM58 or PG-81 with not so good results. Combined + in phase both of the Shure mics can't touch the Rode.

Also the last time my band practiced we miced everything, ran it through the PA and recorded it on my computer. My guitar tone through the PA was absolutely stunning but the recording wasn't nearly as good. Looks like the A/D converter (built in mic input on my macbook pro) was to blame.

Edit: Signal Chain if that helps

Guitar -> Amp -> Cabinet (4x12) -> Mic (Rode Nt1-A) -> Mixer (Cheapo Yamaha) -> Computer (Macbook Pro with Logic Pro 8)
 
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Re: The Difference a Mic Makes

i concur with the mic think...although i think i prefer a Sennheiser e609 over the 57. preferably just have both.
 
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